Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *Brent Meeker* mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> On 8/23/2018 4:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 03:11, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* > Quantum compu

Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 8/23/2018 4:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 03:11, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* > Quantum computers will certainly impact cryptography where there

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 08:47:12AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 8/22/2018 7:01 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > There are also programs for which no one knows if they are computable or > > not.  If you can prove whether or not this function ever completes, you > > will be world famous, and may e

Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 03:11, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> Quantum computers will certainly impact cryptography where there's heavy reliance on factoring primes and disc

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 10:53:05 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:55:33 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:28:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> Why don't we all chip in an buy Alan a computer so he can

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:55:33 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:28:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> Why don't we all chip in an buy Alan a computer so he can look stuff up >> on Wikipedia. >> >> Brent >> > > *I will when you have the courtesy to

Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
Grayson, Let me explain you something crazy but absolutely important to understand about the set of all computable function from N to N. It is true that later, we will be able to identify that with the computable real numbers, but that is another story. So what is a computable function from N

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:28:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > Why don't we all chip in an buy Alan a computer so he can look stuff up on > Wikipedia. > > Brent > *I will when you have the courtesy to explain your contradictory statements about the instantaneous, infinite extent of the wf. O

Re: : Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:16:24 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Aug 2018, at 02:05, Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > On 22 Aug 2018, at 01:54, Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > > The other sort of infinity, the one which I think you disagree

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 8/22/2018 7:01 PM, Jason Resch wrote: There are also programs for which no one knows if they are computable or not.  If you can prove whether or not this function ever completes, you will be world famous, and may even earn a million dollars (though I think the prize has been retracted, it

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread Brent Meeker
Why don't we all chip in an buy Alan a computer so he can look stuff up on Wikipedia. Brent On 8/22/2018 5:58 PM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:26 PM, >wrote: >> Yes, the Busy Beaver Function is not computable. We know that:

Re: : Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Aug 2018, at 02:05, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be> >>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 01:54, Bruce Kellett >> > wrote: >>> >>> From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> >>> The other sort of infinity, the one which

Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 03:11, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Brent Meeker mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> >> >> Quantum computers will certainly impact cryptography where there's heavy >> reliance on factoring primes and discrete logarithms. > > I am really interested in the problem of factoring

Re: Church-Turing Thesis

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 22:59, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Aug 2018, at 08:16, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I've been looking at the Wiki article on this topic. I find that I really >> don't understand

Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 06:03, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 09:43:48PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:11 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>From: Brent Meeker >> >> >>Quantum computers will certainly impact cryptography where the

Re: Many-minds interpretation?

2018-08-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 05:05, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:43 PM Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >> >> On 8/21/2018 3:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:00 PM Brent