Re: Artist and Picture by J.W. Dunne

2019-07-11 Thread Terren Suydam
Sure, but that's not the "FOOM" scenario, in which an AI modifies its own source code, gets smarter, and with the increase in intelligence, is able to make yet more modifications to its own source code, and so on, until its intelligence far outstrips its previous capabilities before the recursive s

Re: subjective experience

2019-07-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:09 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 11 Jul 2019, at 14:23, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:40 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> > On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:04, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >>

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

2019-07-11 Thread Philip Thrift
Where is this? @philipthrift On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 4:26:37 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > [image: I Am.jpg] > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se

Re: Artist and Picture by J.W. Dunne

2019-07-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
Advances in intelligence can just be gaining more factual knowledge, knowing more mathematics, using faster algorithms, etc.  None of that is barred by not being able to model oneself. Brent On 7/11/2019 11:41 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: Similarly, one can never completely understand one's own mi

Re: Artist and Picture by J.W. Dunne

2019-07-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 1:29:38 PM UTC-5, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > > "A certain artist, having escaped from the lunatic asylum in which, > rightly or wrongly, he had be confined, purchased the materials of his > craft and set to work to make a complete picture of the universe." > > ... > >

Re: Artist and Picture by J.W. Dunne

2019-07-11 Thread Terren Suydam
Similarly, one can never completely understand one's own mind, for it would take a bigger mind than one has to do so. This, I believe, is the best argument against the runaway-intelligence scenarios in which sufficiently advanced AIs recursively improve their own code to achieve ever increasing adv

Artist and Picture by J.W. Dunne

2019-07-11 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
"A certain artist, having escaped from the lunatic asylum in which, rightly or wrongly, he had be confined, purchased the materials of his craft and set to work to make a complete picture of the universe." ... "The interpretation of this parable is sufficiently obvious. The artist is trying t

Re: subjective experience

2019-07-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 7/11/2019 3:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:04, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 7/10/2019 7:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The machine define by the two following equations Kxy = x and Sxyz = xz(yz) + S ≠ K, and with the combinator induction axiom (that I

Re: subjective experience

2019-07-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Jul 2019, at 14:23, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:40 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:04, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/10/2019 7:5

Re: subjective experience

2019-07-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:40 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:04, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/10/2019 7:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> The machine define by the two following equations Kxy = x and Sxyz =

Re: subjective experience

2019-07-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:04, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 7/10/2019 7:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> The machine define by the two following equations Kxy = x and Sxyz = xz(yz) >> + S ≠ K, and with the combinator induction axiom (that I gave some posts >> ago) is a