Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2019 6:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:52:03 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/8/

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 3:59:50 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:55 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > *> Other interpretations (but not MWI, as far as I can see) are used in >> writing programs for computational QM.* > > > Like what? > > John K Clark > > > Multiple

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 09:34, Philip Thrift a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 3:59:50 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:55 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> *> Other interpretations (but not MWI, as far as I can see) are used in >>> writing programs for comput

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 2:40:53 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 09:34, Philip Thrift > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 3:59:50 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:55 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> *> Other

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:34 AM Philip Thrift wrote: *>>> Other interpretations (but not MWI, as far as I can see) are used in >>> writing programs for computational QM.* >> >> >> >> Like what? >> > > *> Multiple Histories.* > And Multiple Histories uses path integral formulation and path integr

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:29 PM John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:34 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > *>>> Other interpretations (but not MWI, as far as I can see) are used in writing programs for computational QM.* >>> >>> >>> >> Like what? >>> >> >> *> Multiple Histories.* >> > >

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 5:29:32 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:34 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > *>>> Other interpretations (but not MWI, as far as I can see) are used in writing programs for computational QM.* >>> >>> >>> >> Like what? >>> >> >> *> Multi

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:46 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: >>And Multiple Histories uses path integral formulation and path integral >> formulation uses renormalization theory which is entirely in sympathy with >> the Shut Up And Calculate Interpretation; it's a wonderful way of getting >> the right an

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:09 PM John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:46 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > >>And Multiple Histories uses path integral formulation and path integral >>> formulation uses renormalization theory which is entirely in sympathy with >>> the Shut Up And Calculate I

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 11:30, Philip Thrift a écrit : > > > On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 2:40:53 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 09:34, Philip Thrift a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 3:59:50 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:30 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> The MWI needs renormalization just like its competitors, but nobody >> said many-worlds theory is the be all and end all and needs no >> improvement, but at least it provides a quantum-mechanical model however >> imperfect it may be. >> >

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

> On 8 Oct 2019, at 13:58, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:38 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 6 Oct 2019, at 13:03, Bruce Kellett > wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 7:23 PM Bruno Marchal > > wro

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

> On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:29 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 6 Oct 2019, at 12:46, Bruce Kellett > wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 7:23 PM Bruno Marchal > > wro

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:21:50 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2019 3:52 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > I've argued this before, but it's worth stating a

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

> On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:18, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:25 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 6 Oct 2019, at 10:39, Bruce Kellett > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 7:25 PM Bruno Marchal > >

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 6:35:11 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 11:30, Philip Thrift > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 2:40:53 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le jeu. 10 oct. 2019 à 09:34, Philip Thrift a >>> écrit

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On 10/10/2019 6:39 AM, John Clark wrote: And of course nobody but me has bothered to read his book, but everybody has an opinion about it. You keep posting that, but I've already posted that I have read Carroll's book, and I've watched his recent video.  I don't think QM is the last word, s

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On 10/10/2019 8:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:21:50 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 10/9/2019 3:52 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > I'

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:27:58 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/10/2019 8:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:21:50 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/9/2019 3:52 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 A

Re: Sean Carroll's Google talk about his book

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:16 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> And of course nobody but me has bothered to read his book, but everybody > has an opinion about it. > > > *You keep posting that, but I've already posted that I have read > Carroll's bo

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 2:16 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: After all the ducking and weaving below, Bruno, I must reluctantly come to the conclusion that you are not actually interested in engaging with the issues that I have raised. I suspect that, like Wallace in his book, you have done so in private

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

On 10/6/2019 3:03 AM, smitra wrote: And with finite information in the universe there is not distinction between recurrences and hence there are no recurrences. Yes, but there will also be imperfect recurrences where the difference will go unnoticed for an observer until a measurement is m

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:27:58 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/10/2019 8:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:21:50 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

On 10/10/2019 6:55 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 3:27:58 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 10/10/2019 8:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:21:50 PM