Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:53:35 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2019 5:37 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:27:59 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12/10/2019 5:13 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 6:05:14

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On 12/10/2019 5:37 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:27:59 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 12/10/2019 5:13 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 12/10/2019 3:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:27:59 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2019 5:13 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12/10/2019 3:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:39:55

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On 12/10/2019 5:13 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 12/10/2019 3:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:39:55 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: Materialists say consciousness is process, and as such

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2019 3:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:39:55 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> Materialists say consciousness is process, and as such is realized in >> matter, but is not itself ma

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On 12/10/2019 3:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:39:55 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: Materialists say consciousness is process, and as such is realized in matter, but is not itself matter.  This is well supported by empirical observations of everything from

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:39:55 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > Materialists say consciousness is process, and as such is realized in > matter, but is not itself matter. This is well supported by empirical > observations of everything from drunkenness to brain surgery. > > Brent > > No ma

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On 12/10/2019 7:35 AM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 11:23 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: /> mind is not much what it does, as what it feels,/ I don't think much of the Star Trek/Mr.Spock philosophy. I think something could be conscious and unintelligent

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

On 12/10/2019 5:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: There is. It is what you can expect to feel when doing the experience. In Helsinki, you believe that you will survive (because you believe in Mechanism, say), and you know with certainty that you will bring a cup of coffee, because this has been

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

On 12/10/2019 4:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 8 Dec 2019, at 21:57, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 12/8/2019 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 7 Dec 2019, at 22:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On 12/10/2019 4:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I wrote "my apple" so it is indicial and I define it ostensively, which is concrete. Relatively to you and me. It seems concrete because we have billions of interconnected amoebas working hard to make us easily recognising fruits from poison and

Hedda Hassel Mørch: protoconsciousness pervades the cosmos

By John Horgan on December 9, 2019 https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/beyond-physicalism/ ref: The Integrated Information Theory of Consciousness Hedda Hassel Mørch (2017) https://philosophynow.org/issues/121/The_Integrated_Information_Theory_of_Consciousness https://heddah

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 11:23 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: *> mind is not much what it does, as what it feels,* I don't think much of the Star Trek/Mr.Spock philosophy. I think something could be conscious and unintelligent but not the other way around. And I don't think it's feelings that distinguis

Re: The largest and smallest Black Holes

Astronomical objects and events are nothing to fear. The probabilities are small. Earth has been here 4.6 billion years and so far no black hole event or strangelet wipeout. Even large asteroids are a one in ten million year event. Only one person has been documented to be hit by a small meteor.

Re: The largest and smallest Black Holes

> On 6 Dec 2019, at 16:38, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > Strangelets are a baryon state (d,u,s) where this has a lower energy state > than a proton state (d,u,u). There is a large potential barrier obstructing a > flavor changing weak interaction u --> s + e + nu_ e-bar. However, this is >

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

> On 9 Dec 2019, at 18:58, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:20 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > the question is on the first person experience, > > For the 998th time, given that in Bruno's scenario a first person experience > duplicating machine is in

Re: The problem with physics

> On 8 Dec 2019, at 22:55, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:30 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>> when you listen to each of them, you realise that they know perfectly > who they are. > > >> Yes, one knows he is the Washington Man and one knows he is

Re: How Mathematics Meets the World, by Tim Maudlin

> On 8 Dec 2019, at 21:57, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 12/8/2019 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 7 Dec 2019, at 22:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/7/2019 1:57 AM, Phil

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 8 Dec 2019, at 21:29, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 12/8/2019 2:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 7 Dec 2019, at 00:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/6/2019 6:34 AM, Brun

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 8 Dec 2019, at 12:51, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > When doing metaphysics with the scientific attitude and method, we know that > we can only refute a metaphysical theory. We can’t prove anything positive > about