On 8/13/2022 4:53 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:49 AM Stathis Papaioannou
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/> Identical physical states in a deterministic world would evolve
identically, as would any supervening mental states./
Yes.
> /However, a supervenient relationship is such th
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 21:53, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:49 AM Stathis Papaioannou
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> *> Identical physical states in a deterministic world would evolve
>> identically, as would any supervening mental states.*
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> Yes.
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"The structure of all computations". Lets go physicalist even on this one.
Where does such a mechanism exist? Is it dark matter? the area beyond the
Hubble Volume, the unborn minds of humans and AI yet to come? Phase space
Hilbert Space, Anti-De Sitter space??? A future Omega Point, a curren
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 2:08 PM Joel Dietz wrote:
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>> I think there is more similarity between Wolfram's ideas, and those of
>> Bruno Marchal and Markus P. Müller, which framed things algorithmically and
>> showed how laws of physics can be extracted from the structure of all
>> computations.
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> I think there is more similarity between Wolfram's ideas, and those of
> Bruno Marchal and Markus P. Müller, which framed things algorithmically and
> showed how laws of physics can be extracted from the structure of all
> computations.
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Can you give some citations? I don't obviously see
IRREVERSIBILITY is an artifact of the CI, where collapse occurs to an
eigenstate of the observable being measured. But if the measuring apparatus
is treated quantum mechanically, all processes associated with measurements
are unitary and reversible.
On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:47:06 AM
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 4:49 AM ronaldheld wrote:
> Is this vaguely related to Tegmark's mathematical structures?
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> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:36:05 PM UTC-4 Jason wrote:
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On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:49 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
*> Identical physical states in a deterministic world would evolve
> identically, as would any supervening mental states.*
Yes.
> *However, a supervenient relationship is such that multiple different
> physical states can give rise t
Is this vaguely related to Tegmark's mathematical structures?
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:36:05 PM UTC-4 Jason wrote:
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> https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/04/why-does-the-universe-exist-some-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/
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> I found this fascinating. It appears to have
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