Unless the thread title is parsed as "everything is either real or unreal"
:-)
On 22 November 2013 07:08, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
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> > Does that mean that everything is actually unreal
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> Who cares? For a word to have meaning it need
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
> Does that mean that everything is actually unreal
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Who cares? For a word to have meaning it needs contrast, so a world where
EVERYTHING is X would be indistinguishable from a world where NOTHING is
X.
> a holograph
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A hologram is real.
Niels Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made of
things that
cannot be regarded as real. If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked
you, you
haven't understood it yet.”
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Aage Bohr tried to explain something about te quantum domain and (perhaps)
abou
On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:56 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the
Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the
elements of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them
describe people in some computational state).
W
On 17 Nov 2013, at 04:24, Samiya Illias wrote:
Bruno wrote: "In a sense, with comp, the illusions and dreams are
more real that the stuff we imagine, which are useful fictions."
Dreams and illusions are not stuff we imagine?
Not really, because the "we" is part of the dreams.
With comp,
Nothing to get hung (up) about.
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Bruno wrote: "In a sense, with comp, the illusions and dreams are more
real that the stuff we imagine, which are useful fictions."
Dreams and illusions are not stuff we imagine? How do you differentiate?
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 16 Nov 2013, at 11:32, Telmo
On 16 Nov 2013, at 15:14, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That particle interactions can be reduced to math and math to set
theory or peano aritmethic or category theory or homotophy type
theory resembles me the idea that persons can be reduced to
elementary particles, so persons are uninterestin
For humans, this is what is real:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=82c_1384436180
What quantum mechanics tells us is that reality is a relation between
fundamental relativism and derived absolutes, as well as derived relativism
and fundamental absolutes. In short, reality cannot itself be absolut
Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the
Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the elements
of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them describe people
in some computational state).
While the details have yet to be worked out (I have been work
That particle interactions can be reduced to math and math to set theory or
peano aritmethic or category theory or homotophy type theory resembles me
the idea that persons can be reduced to elementary particles, so persons
are uninteresting objects. And because I think that knowledge is something
p
On 16 Nov 2013, at 11:32, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias
wrote:
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum
mechanics, is
everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that
everything is
actually unreal, a holograph, a refle
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias wrote:
> Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is
> everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is
> actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
As Bruno said
On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:51, Samiya Illias wrote:
Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is
made of things that cannot be regarded asreal.
He said something close to that in some of his talk on complementarity.
It is a bit of a non-sense, easy to derive from the "wave
(Brent wrote)
" Neils Bohr had a horseshoe nailed over the door to his office.
When a graduate student asked him if he believed the supersition
that this would bring good luck, Bohr said, "I'm told it works
whether you believe in it or not." "
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" Once, at the afternoon tea, in the Instit
On 11/15/2013 8:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything
real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a
holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
I don't even know what th
I see no reason to believe the quantum world is "unreal", though I suppose
it might depend on one's interpretation of quantum mechanics (but most
non-Copenhagen interpretations, like the many-worlds interpretation and
Bohmian mechanics, treat the state of quantum systems as completely
objective).
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is
everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything
is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Jesse Mazer wrote:
> I suspect this i
I suspect this is one of those fake quotes that gets circulated around the
internet; searching for "everything we call real" and "bohr" on
books.google.com I mostly just find it in various religious/spiritual
books, nothing scholarly (and nothing dating back to before 1986).
Jesse
On Fri, Nov 15
Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made
of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't
profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.”
What's your take on this?
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