Another example of why Bruno should get a Templeton.
Brent
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Site logo image whyevolutionistrue posted: "The Templeton Prize, now
worth $1.3 million, was initiated by the hedge-fund magnate Sir John
Templeton (1912-2008) to award accomplished people of faith. As its
Wikipedia entry notes, the prize originally went solely to religionists
like Mother Teresa ("
2022 Templeton Prize goes to Nobel-winning physicist Frank Wilczek
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whyevolutionistrue
May 13
The Templeton Prize, now worth $1.3 million, was initiated by the
hedge-fund magnate Sir John Templeton (1912-2008) to award accomplished
people of faith. As its /Wikipedia/ entry
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Prize> notes, the prize
originally went solely to religionists like Mother Teresa (now a saint)
and Billy Graham, but has recently morphed more and more into a prize
given to those who unite spirituality and religion with science (Sir
John's view was that the more we learn about science, the closer we get
to God—not to some apophatic and abstruse deity like "love" or "nature",
but to a real personal-type god.) Here's a bit about the annual prize
from /Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Prize>/:
The *Templeton Prize* is an annual award granted to a living person,
in the estimation of the judges, "whose exemplary achievements
advance Sir John Templeton's philanthropic vision: harnessing the
power of the sciences to explore the deepest questions of the
universe and humankind's place and purpose within it." It was
established, funded and administered by John Templeton starting in
1972. It is now co-funded by the John Templeton Foundation,
Templeton Religion Trust, and Templeton World Charity Foundation,
and administered by the John Templeton Foundation.^[1]
The prize was originally awarded to people working in the field of
religion (Mother Teresa was the first winner), but in the 1980s the
scope broadened to include people working at the intersection of
science and religion. Until 2001, the name of the prize was
"Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion", and from 2002 to 2008 it
was called the "Templeton Prize for Progress Toward Research or
Discoveries about Spiritual Realities".
Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists and Muslims have been on the
panel of judges and have been recipients of the prize.
The monetary value of the prize is adjusted so that it exceeds that
of the Nobel Prizes; Templeton felt, according to /The Economist/,
that "spirituality was ignored" in the Nobel Prizes. As of 2019, it
is £1.1 million. It has typically been presented by Prince Philip in
a ceremony at Buckingham Palace.
The list of prizes at the /Wikipedia/ site shows this morphing, and the
latest recipient: theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wilczek>, continues the trend (last
year's recipient was Jane Goodall). As far as I can see, Wilczek is
basically an agnostic who pays lip service to "God" as meaning
"everything in the world." Wikipedia notes, "Wilczek was raised Catholic
but later 'lost faith in conventional religion'. He claims no religious
tradition, and has been described as an agnostic but tweeted in 2013
that 'pantheist' is 'closer to the mark'." In other words, he's a "none."
Well, that's good enough for me so long as he isn't engaged in
promulgating any kind of faith (belief without evidence), which he isn't
(see below for more).
Wilczek was born in 1951 and is listed as
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wilczek> "The Herman Feshbach
Professor of Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT),
Founding Director of T. D. Lee Institute and Chief Scientist at the
Wilczek Quantum Center, Shanghai Jiao Tong University (SJTU),
distinguished professor at Arizona State University (ASU) and full
professor at Stockholm University.. That's a lot of positions! But the
big deal is that he won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 2004 for work on
the strong nuclear force, but he also has distinguished accomplishments
in other areas of physics. He's somewhat of a physics polymath.
You can see a collection of videos about Wilczek and the Templeton Prize
<https://www.templetonprize.org/watch-the-world-through-dr-frank-wilczeks-eyes/>
on the JTF site. They don't show any visible strain of religiosity,
conventional or otherwise, and a /Scientific American/ interview with
him, though playing up the "God" angle in its title, has nothing to say
about a deity (click to read).
<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/god-dark-matter-and-falling-cats-a-conversation-with-2022-templeton-prize-winner-frank-wilczek/>
I'll give just two Q&A's from the interview here:
*Congratulations on receiving the Templeton Prize. What does this
award represent for you?*
My exploratory, science-based efforts to address questions that are
often thought to be philosophical or religious are resonating. I’m
very grateful for that, and I’ve started to think about what it all
means.
One kind of “spiritual” awakening for me has been experiencing how a
dialogue with nature is possible—in which nature “talks back” and
sometimes surprises you and sometimes confirms what you imagined.
Vague hopes and concepts that were originally scribbles on paper
become experimental proposals and sometimes successful descriptions
of the world.
Well, when you read on, those "questions that are often thought to be
philosophical or religious" turn out to be questions about science. The
rest of his answer says nothing about a god, but defines Wilczek's
spirituality as the feeling he gets when his squiggles on paper that
turn out to be correct representations of reality. But in that sense
many theoretical physicists, like Dirac, Schrödinger, and Einstein, were
"spiritual" too. The word is emptied here of any of its numinous
significance.
One more.
*You don’t now identify with any particular religious tradition, but
in your 2021 book /Fundamentals: Ten Keys to Reality/, you wrote,
“In studying how the world works, we are studying how God works, and
thereby /learning what God is/.” What did you mean by that?*
The use of the word “God” in common culture is very loose. People
can mean entirely different things by it. For me, the unifying
thread is thinking big: thinking about how the world works, what it
is, how it came to be and what all that means for what we should do.
I chose to study this partly to fill the void that was left when I
realized I could no longer accept the dogmas of the Catholic Church
that had meant a lot to me as a teenager. Those dogmas include
claims about how things happen that are particularly difficult to
reconcile with science. But more importantly, the world is a bigger,
older and more alien place than the tribalistic account in the
Bible. There are some claims about ethics and attitudes about
community that I do find valuable, but they cannot be taken as
pronouncements from “on high.” I think I have now gathered enough
wisdom and life experience that I can revisit all this with real
insight.
If "God" means "thinking about how the world works and how that
conditions our actions", then we're pretty much all religious.! I can
live with that definition. His second paragraph not only disses the
Bible, but touts a form of humanism as well as downgrading Earth, much
less humans, as a special locus of God's concern and action.
The rest of the interview is about Wilczek's science, and is by far the
most interesting bit.
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