Re: Ideal lamps

2003-10-25 Thread Eric Hawthorne
"Perhaps you've heard of Thompson's Lamp. This is an IDEAL lamp, capable of INFINITE switching SPEED and using electricity that travels at INFINITE SPEED." Is it pedantic of me to point out that this is an IDEAL lamp, i.e. one which only exists as an idea, and one which, because of its transcenden

Re: Ideal lamps

2003-10-25 Thread Brent Meeker
- Original Message - From: "Eric Hawthorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Ideal lamps > "Perhaps you've heard of Thompson's Lamp. This is an IDEAL l

Re: Ideal lamps

2003-10-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:15:57PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: > I don't know why anyone thought the speed of light had anything to do Maybe you should read up on general relativity. > with this problem. The lamp can be at a single point and so can its A geometrical point has zero length and wi

Re: Ideal lamps

2003-10-25 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Like I said, in mathematics, there MAY be an answer, depending what mathematical theory you choose. Even within mathematics, there may be questions that don't have an answer, and are ill-formed, and only seem well-formed because they seem to read ok in informal English. Without your extra axiom,

RE: Ideal lamps

2003-10-25 Thread wichy
The question of the Thompson's Lamp seems to me either doesn't not have anything to do with physics. Time does not have to shrink; we don't even need to deal with time. To me is the same problem than ask what happen with the infinite sum 1-1+1-1+1-1+1... Is it 0 or 1? (Here +1 stand for ON and

Re: Ideal lamps

2003-10-26 Thread scerir
wichy: > The question of the Thompson's Lamp seems to me either doesn't not have > anything to do with physics. Time does not have to shrink; we don't even > need to deal with time. To me is the same problem than ask what happen > with the infinite sum 1-1+1-1+1-1+1... Is it 0 or 1? (Here +1 st