In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Jonathan, Non-separateness and identity are not the same thing! Your argument against dualism assumes that the duals are somehow separable and non-mutually dependent and thus lacking a linking mechanism dualism fails as a viable theory. On the other hand, once we see the flaw in the

Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread Joao Leao
Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Jonathan, Non-separateness and identity are not the same thing! Your argument against dualism assumes that the duals are somehow separable and non-mutually dependent and thus lacking a linking mechanism dualism fails as a viable theory. On the other hand, once we

Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread Stephen Paul King
D] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected) snipDear SPK Though I entirely agree with what you state above, I take issue with your characterization of "Platonism" as some form of mathematical monism. If you had ca

Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread Joao Leao
s, and not Existence in-itself. My words are ill-posed here, I apologize.Kindest regards,Stephen - Original Message - From: Joao Leao To: Stephen Paul King Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; everything-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: In defense

[Fwd: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)]

2005-05-20 Thread Joao Leao
] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected) Dear Stephen, I think I catch your point. As it happens the distinction Being/Becoming (as Form/Substance) are very Aristotelian, both in origin and in the way we use them. If the distinction has any m

Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread scerir
From: Joao Leao Our access to mathematical archetypes is in this sense a map to help us make our way back to the garden, as Joni Mitchell (that great Platonist) would put it! If I remember well - but I studied all that 35 years ago - Aristotle called all that 'hylomorphism', from hule =

Re: In defense of Dualism (typos corrected)

2005-05-20 Thread Joao Leao
I am not sure that the Aristotelic term applied to this. I see hylemorphism as the position that matter beggets form (rather the other way around which is the more platonic position). I think it applies fully to the group of attempts to build Relational (Classical and Quantum) Theories of