Re: No MWI

2009-05-21 Thread ronaldheld
modified paper from Tegmark: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0905/0905.2182v1.pdf Ronald On May 19, 5:41 pm, ronaldheld wrote: > I would like to branch away temporarily, due to the Star Trek movie. > Is it the case in MWI, that a decision is made in Univers

Re: No MWI

2009-05-19 Thread ronaldheld
I would like to branch away temporarily, due to the Star Trek movie. Is it the case in MWI, that a decision is made in Universe A (destruction of the Kelvin). Before that event, the Universe, or at least the causal part of it has a certain physical configuration. Immediately after that event, Univ

Re: No MWI

2009-05-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/5/14 ronaldheld : > > read Aixiv.org:0905.0624v1 (quant-ph) and see if you agree with it This part at the end, proposing an empirical method of distinguishing between MWI and single world interpretations and reminiscent of quantum suicide experiments, is interesting: "Finally, suppose, notw

Re: No MWI

2009-05-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 18-mai-09, à 09:25, rexallen...@gmail.com a écrit : > > So,in terms of the many worlds interpretation, what is the standard > narrative explanation of the double slit experiment? I guess you are referring to the materialist MWI of QM, and not to the idealist MWI of Arithmetic (often discuss

Re: No MWI

2009-05-18 Thread rexallen...@gmail.com
So,in terms of the many worlds interpretation, what is the standard narrative explanation of the double slit experiment? In particular, in "MWI-speak", what exactly happens when you know which slit the photon has passed through that causes the interference pattern disappear? Also, what is the MW

Re: No MWI

2009-05-16 Thread Jason Resch
Right, I copied and pasted it and it must have lost the superscript. Thanks for catching that. Jason On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:48 PM, russell standish wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 05:40:09PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: >> Deutsch. "If the number is 64, people can shut their eyes but if it'

Re: No MWI

2009-05-15 Thread russell standish
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 05:40:09PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: > Deutsch. "If the number is 64, people can shut their eyes but if it's > 1064, they will no longer be able to pretend." > > Jason Hopefully you meant 10^64, not 1064, which is not all that startling. --

Re: No MWI

2009-05-15 Thread Jason Resch
David Deutsch gives this convincing argument against a single world: that one can't explain how quantum computers work without postulating other universes. The evidence for the multiverse, according to Deutsch, is equally overwhelming. "Admittedly, it's indirect," he says. "But then, we can detec

Re: No MWI

2009-05-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 May 2009, at 14:27, ronaldheld wrote: > > I still do not see any arguments against what I read, that one > Universe fits observations better than the MWI. Just comp predicts many worlds/histories and the fact they play a key role in the statistics of experiences. But with QM, many wor

Re: No MWI

2009-05-15 Thread ronaldheld
I still do not see any arguments against what I read, that one Universe fits observations better than the MWI. Ronald On May 15, 1:01 am, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: > On May 14, 9:47 pm, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: > > > > > > > On May 14

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread daddycaylor
On May 14, 9:47 pm, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: > On May 14, 4:45 pm, Colin Hales wrote: > > > > > At the same time  position 1 completely fails to explain an > > observer of the kind able to do 1a. > > I would say that position 2 fails to explain the observer too, you > have to actually explain t

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread daddycaylor
On May 14, 4:45 pm, Colin Hales wrote: > > At the same time position 1 completely fails to explain an > observer of the kind able to do 1a. I would say that position 2 fails to explain the observer too, you have to actually explain the observer to claim that a position explains the observer. B

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread Kelly Harmon
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Colin Hales wrote: > > My ability to mentally manipulate mathematics therefore makes me a > powerful lord of reality and puts me in a position of great authority and > clarity. Aren't people who are good at math already pretty much in this position? Engineering,

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread Colin Hales
Brent Meeker wrote: > Colin Hales wrote: > >> Hi, >> When I read quantum mechanics and listen to those invested in the many >> places the mathematics leads, What strikes me is the extent to which the >> starting point is mathematics. That is, the entire discussion is couched >> as if the math

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread Brent Meeker
Colin Hales wrote: > Hi, > When I read quantum mechanics and listen to those invested in the many > places the mathematics leads, What strikes me is the extent to which the > starting point is mathematics. That is, the entire discussion is couched > as if the mathematics is defining what there

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread Colin Hales
Hi, When I read quantum mechanics and listen to those invested in the many places the mathematics leads, What strikes me is the extent to which the starting point is mathematics. That is, the entire discussion is couched as if the mathematics is defining what there is, rather than a mere descri

Re: No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread Jason Resch
The following link shows convincingly that what one gains by accepting MWI is far greater than what one loses (an answer to the born probabilities) http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/05/if-many-worlds.html "The only law in all of quantum mechanics that is non-linear, non-unitary, non-differentia

No MWI

2009-05-14 Thread ronaldheld
read Aixiv.org:0905.0624v1 (quant-ph) and see if you agree with it Ronald --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this gr