Re: Re: On Causation with Mind and brain as apples and oranges

2012-09-24 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King I have trouble conceiving an isomorphism (or anything comparative) between something that is there and something that is not. The something that is not there is not the absence of the thing that was, since it has no shape, no location, and cannot be found by a physical search.

Re: Re: On Causation with Mind and brain as apples and oranges

2012-09-24 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King OK, I can understand that at least in princiople. I recall a statement by the famous Maharishi Yogi from way back: Knowledge is structured in consciousness. I had forgotten the structured part. To my mind at least, that explains why nature shows structure as well. A

On Causation with Mind and brain as apples and oranges

2012-09-22 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg OK that's the classic example of the pin prick and feeling pain. It works for the worlds of apples and oranges if you accept Hume's and Leibniz's theory of causation, or at least my understanding of it, namely that changes in the mental world are simply synchronized with

Re: On Causation with Mind and brain as apples and oranges

2012-09-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/22/2012 6:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg OK that's the classic example of the pin prick and feeling pain. It works for the worlds of apples and oranges if you accept Hume's and Leibniz's theory of causation, or at least my understanding of it, namely that changes in the