onfirm it as he thinks.
Thanks for looking at this. It seemed clear to me that it could not work
but it is good to see a detailed analysis of where Plaga goes wrong.
Seems that his result would do more than disprove the MWI, it would
actually disprove QM in general. As you have shown, he eff
nformation about the environment. A
test to see if the system has been decohered by its interaction with the
environment is that the off-diagonal terms in the system-only density
matrix go to zero. Plaga clearly accepts the usual position that
irreversible branching in MWI occurs when decoh
At 06:58 PM 5/24/2005, rmiller wrote:
In a recent post (5/24) I wrote. . .
I would suggest re Plaga or anyone else discussed here, it's not the time
spent in a particular academic trench that makes the idea great, it's the
quality of the insight.
As luck, coincidence or a wid
Ha, ha.
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:50:01 +0200
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> Bruno was quoting another Aet from a parallel world :)
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> Quoting Eugen Leitl :
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say that. Someone else did. I was
> quoting them. If you're going to quote somebody, I suggest you get it
> right.- Original Message - From: "Bruno Marchal"
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> 25-mai-05, à 17:59, aet.radal ssg a écrit : > > > From the
- Original Message - From: "Jesse Mazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Plaga Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:37:54 -0400 > > aet.radal ssg wrote: > > > From the initial page from the included link to the arch
HEY! BRUNO - I, (aet) didn't say that. Someone else did. I was quoting them. If you're going to quote somebody, I suggest you get it right.- Original Message - From: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "aet.radal ssg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject:
You're welcome, Lee.
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From: "Lee Corbin"
To: everything-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Plaga
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:04:19 -0700
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> I could not find who suggested Plaga's paper recently, but
> thanks to whoever it was. Whether Pl
I could not find who suggested Plaga's paper recently, but
thanks to whoever it was. Whether Plaga is right or wrong,
his introductory remarks and general presentation are
simply superb.
There is even the very noteworthy (or humorous, I can't decide)
sentence which reads "Independ
ave a deadline today!
I red Plaga's paper. It is extremely interesting. It belongs to the
family of Weinberg's result. Some hoped that a slight delinearisation
of QM would "explain the collapse". Reasoning a-la Weinberg Plaga shows
that it is the contrary which happens.
aet.radal ssg wrote:
From the initial page from the included link to the archive: "I'm no
physicist so I don't know for sure that >these implications would
follow, but I am very doubtful that interworld communication is consistent
with the basics of quantum mechanics. The fact that this paper
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as the possibility exists, I keep an open mind. Besides, if unbriddled skepticism was right all the time, we wouldn't be using computers, flying, or even have phones of any kind, just to name a few things.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subj
At 07:51 PM 5/24/2005, Hal Finney wrote:
We discussed Plaga's paper back in June, 2002. I reported some skeptical
analysis of the paper by John Baez of sci.physics fame, at
http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m3686.html . I also gave some
reasons of my own why arbitrary inter-universe quantum
We discussed Plaga's paper back in June, 2002. I reported some skeptical
analysis of the paper by John Baez of sci.physics fame, at
http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m3686.html . I also gave some
reasons of my own why arbitrary inter-universe quantum communication
should be impossible.
Hal F
All,
In my recent post I noted that Plaga's article has been on the xxx site
since their server was a 386. I want to be clear that my comment was not
meant as a dig at Plaga, nor his paper--just that it has been around since
'95 and I can't recall anyone commenting (constructiv
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