Re: random, was Predictions & duplications

2001-10-18 Thread Marchal
John Mikes wrote: >Bruno, I appreciate your choice of incompressibility - as far as >mathematical views are concerned. And you know that with comp a case is made there is nothing outside mathematics (even outside arithmetics) so that's ok for me. But you know also that the determinist self-dup

Re: random, was Predictions & duplications

2001-10-17 Thread Russell Standish
Yes, in a different context, random could be applied to deterministic chaos, however in the context of our discussion, we're not talking about that. Cheers jamikes wrote: > > Bruno, I appreciate your choice of incompressibility - as far as > mathe

Re: random, was Predictions & duplications

2001-10-17 Thread jamikes
Bruno, I appreciate your choice of incompressibility - as far as mathematical views are concerned. How about a "random" choice of a color from a hundred others? can this be algorithmic and incomressible? Or a choice "at random" from available several routes, how to defend an innocent accused in co

Re: Random, was Predictions & duplications

2001-10-15 Thread jamikes
"According to whim or taste" implies a conscious entity performing choices according to a free will. This need not be the case. In my mind, random means selected without cause (or without procedure/algorithm)." Russell picked my example from a language which has no equivalent to the word "random"