Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
on; rszapp; rffarmer; rakman; kosz; johnwagner; > farmerr; eric_stroud; Andrea S Kishne; David Bonnell (pref.); makoilaci; - > derek abbott > *Subject:* Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? > > ** ** > > "As for what light is, keep in mind that we do k

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
--- > *From:* David Bonnell > *Receiver:* dfine > *Time:* 2013-01-16, 15:44:10 > *Subject:* Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? > > The speed of light is altered when photons move in a medium whose index > of refraction is greater than that of the vacuum (

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-17 Thread Roger Clough
e: 2013-01-16, 15:44:10 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? The speed of light is altered when photons move in a medium whose index of refraction is greater than that of the vacuum ("raw" space). This change is what causes alterations in the movement of light

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
e, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 > Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? > > Well Roger, > > Think of the n

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Spudboy100
Is experimentation even theoretically possible at the Planck length/width? This could effect EM, and, of course also impacts your Light post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Roger Clough
rd Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? Well Roger, Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. Think of the number infinities in terms of a static MWI deterministic Block Universe BU. T

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:08:35 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Only the 1p perspective is dynamic >> >> or causes dynamicism- changes in the Block Universe. >> >> I should have mentioned that the Mind is a block univers

Re: Fw: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
content - > Sender: makoilaci > Receiver: Roger Clough > Time: 2013-01-09, 12:15:42 > Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? > > > *just the opposite. general relativity brought aether back, but it is > 4-dimensonal. > > *-- > > On Wed,

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:08:35 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > > >> > >> Only the 1p perspective is dynamic > >> or causes dynamicism- changes in the Block Universe. > > I should have mentioned that the Mind is a block universe > but not necessarily the physical universe(s). > > I see Mi

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> But in the end the magic of consciousness > >> requires a 1p

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> But in the end the magic of consciousness >> requires a 1p leap of faith. > > > And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is > litera

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
13 at 8:33 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> Hi Richard Ruquist >> >> Sounds a little fantastic to me, but what do I know ? >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 1/10/2013 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Al

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > > > But in the end the magic of consciousness > requires a 1p leap of faith. > And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is literally a leap across mechanism, computation, and physics. That is what

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
> 1/10/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > > - Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-09, 10:29:00 > Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? > > O

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
Time: 2013-01-09, 10:29:00 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: > >> Bruno, >> >> Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experimen

Fw: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
the aether is being replaced by new theories. - Have received the following content - Sender: makoilaci Receiver: Roger Clough Time: 2013-01-09, 12:15:42 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? just the opposite. general relativity brought aether back, but it

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-09 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: > >> Bruno, >> >> Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, >> space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). > > > Space-time remains physical, here. > > >> There is no aeth

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). Space-time remains physical, here. There is no aether. Electromagnetic waves propagate through nothing at all, suggesting to me