Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
:* 2013-01-16, 15:44:10 *Subject:* Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? The speed of light is altered when photons move in a medium whose index of refraction is greater than that of the vacuum (raw space). This change is what causes alterations in the movement of light

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? Well Roger, Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. Think of the number infinities in terms of a static MWI deterministic Block Universe BU. The number infinities exist

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
- Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? Well Roger, Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. Think of the number

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
-09, 10:29:00 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-09, 10:29:00 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a 1p leap of faith. And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is literally a leap across mechanism, computation, and physics. That is what free

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). Space

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a 1p leap of faith. And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:08:35 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: Only the 1p perspective is dynamic or causes dynamicism- changes in the Block Universe. I should have mentioned that the Mind is a block universe