Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, Le 07-janv.-08, à 18:12, John Mikes wrote (to Hal Ruhl) > > Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it > though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" > dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something > like

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
Hey Günther, thanks for the comments. On Jan 9, 6:43 am, Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm - your real existing nothing is just a word without referent - like > a null pointer. > Q: "What is on the paper?" > As answer you expect that what is written. > As the paper is still blank:

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: At 04:01 PM 1/8/2008, you wrote: >Hi, Hal: - Hopefully without risking strawmanship, a further remark >on our humanly limited language (however infiltrating into the >'meaning' of texts): >HR: >"...> What I indicated was all paths to completion." >JM: >does anything like 'completion'

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Günther: your reply is well to the point(s) - I feel to explain why I opened Pandora's (empty?) box of nothingness. It was long ago when we discussed these things with Hal, I changed my views a lot since then - as well, as Hal also developed a comprehensive theory of his own. I wrote a macama on

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Gevin, thanks for your comprehensive - and very understandable - explanation about "nothing" (no pun) and its qualia-circumstances. My post to Hal targeted "nothingness" as differentiated from "nothing". The concept, not the qualia or nature of its adjectival meaning. I regret to have missed so fa

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi, > There is a real existing "nothing" and there is a concept nonexistence > and they should never be confused. The real nothing is common, > "nothing in the refrigerator", a white canvas, empty space (the ideal > or direction toward i.e., expansion). The real nothing is simply > balance, unifo

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
On Jan 6, 12:54 pm, Hal Ruhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My view has been that the Nothing is incomplete because it contains > no ability to answer meaningful questions about itself and there is > one it must answer and that is its duration. This question is always > asked and must be answered.

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
On Jan 8, 1:01 pm, "John Mikes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JM: does anything like 'completion' make sense in speaking about an > unlimited totality? Furthermore: are 'copies' considerable substantial > items, or simply our figment of looking from different angles into > different angles - at the

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-08 Thread John Mikes
Hi, Hal: - Hopefully without risking strawmanship, a further remark on our humanly limited language (however infiltrating into the 'meaning' of texts): HR: "...> What I indicated was all paths to completion." JM: does anything like 'completion' make sense in speaking about an unlimited totality?

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: At 12:12 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it >though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" >dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something >like: > >"...In the Beginning the

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread John Mikes
Hal, me again (John): Do you seriously mean "How many Nothings"? John On Jan 7, 2008 12:12 PM, John Mikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it > though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" > dating back

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread John Mikes
Hal, I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something like: "...In the Beginning there was Nothingness ( - today I would add: observer of

Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-06 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Russell: I have at last found a opportunity to start looking at your book. Thanks for the cite. My view has been that the Nothing is incomplete because it contains no ability to answer meaningful questions about itself and there is one it must answer and that is its duration. This questi