The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p)

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
Bruno and all, I have not infrequently brought up the need for a "self" in your models. Why do you need to include a self or 1p in your models ? There are two ways of looking at something: a) the objective material, which is the raw material without an observer. The impersonal, scientific versio

Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p)

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Oct 2012, at 11:27, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno and all, I have not infrequently brought up the need for a "self" in your models. Why do you need to include a self or 1p in your models ? There are two ways of looking at something: a) the objective material, which is the raw material with

Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p)

2012-10-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:28:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: > > Bruno and all, > > I have not infrequently brought up the need for a "self" > in your models. Why do you need to include a self or 1p > in your models ? > > There are two ways of looking at something: > > a) the objective materia

Re: Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p)

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
ime: 2012-10-02, 07:56:43 Subject: Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p) On 02 Oct 2012, at 11:27, Roger Clough wrote: > Bruno and all, > > I have not infrequently brought up the need for a "self" > in your models. Why do you need to in

Re: Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p)

2012-10-03 Thread Roger Clough
, 15:54:01 Subject: Re: The meaning of subjectivity and the importance of self (1p) On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:28:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Bruno and all, I have not infrequently brought up the need for a "self" in your models. Why do you need to include a self or 1p in yo