On 27 Dec 2012, at 00:22, Roger Clough wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I exist or do not exist.
3. That computers can be conscious or not.
4. That there is a primary physical reality or not.
You forget the main one
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Time: 2012-12-29, 17:05:08
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I
On 29 Dec 2012, at 21:15, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/29/2012 4:56 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Bruno Marchalmarc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the physical movement of the parts of the
Time: 2012-12-28, 13:29:55
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the scientific method: they observe other
On 29 Dec 2012, at 03:20, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 7:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:09 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 1:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the physical movement of the parts of the brain can be
simulated by a computer.
Assuming you can prove consciousness is related to those
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Stathis!!! (See after your remark) - John M
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the
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Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the physical movement of the parts of the brain can be
simulated by a computer
On 12/29/2012 7:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 03:20, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 7:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:09 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 1:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a
, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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Time: 2012-12-29, 10:38:18
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On 12/29/2012 7:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 03:20
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
If God exists then His existence should be obvious to a blind man in a fog
bank, but it is not and the only reason that could be is that God has
On 12/29/2012 5:05 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM, John Mikesjami...@gmail.com wrote:
Stathis!!! (See after your remark) - John M
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannoustath...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's possible to prove that computers
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I exist or do not exist.
Proof that you exist:
If you are reading this you exist. Q.E.D.
Or at least it is proof
Time: 2012-12-27, 20:11:51
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On 12/27/2012 4:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote
This is a silly game. There are different kinds and standards of proof.
Mathematical
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the scientific method: they observe other people, they create a
model in which other people are like themselves, they test the model
On 28 Dec 2012, at 01:38, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I exist or do not exist.
3. That computers can be conscious
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Time: 2012-12-28, 13:29:55
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the scientific method
Stathis!!! (See after your remark) - John M
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the physical movement of the parts of the brain can be
simulated by a computer.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:41 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Stathis!!! (See after your remark) - John M
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
stath...@gmail.comwrote:
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
proved that the
On 12/28/2012 1:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the scientific method: they observe other
people, they create a model in which other people are
On 12/28/2012 4:09 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 1:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the scientific method: they observe other people,
On 12/28/2012 7:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:09 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 12/28/2012 1:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?
Everybody solves it by the
prove or disprove
The second one empirically proven, if I talk about myself. But I can't
prove that the other guys exists or not.
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I exist or do not exist.
3. That computers can be conscious or not.
It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious
. Legal
proof is by 'preponderance of the evidence' or 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Science
doesn't even to pretend to 'prove' things, although it can prove some theories are false
in the 'beyond reasonable doubt' sense.
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does
Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
1. That God exists or does not exist.
2. That I exist or do not exist.
3. That computers can be conscious or not.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/26/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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