Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​ >> ​>> ​ >> Everett says observation is not what causes a universe to split it's >> simply a change, a change made in anything will make it happen and it >> doesn't matter if it's a observation or not. >> For Everett the universe splits ​wh

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Nov 2015, at 22:00, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>> ​Many-Worlds gives the best explanation for why probabilities and not certainties exist at the quantum level that I know of, and that and the fact that it doesn't need to define "c

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-06 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> ​>> ​ >> Many-Worlds gives the best explanation for why probabilities and not >> certainties exist at the quantum level that I know of, and that and the >> fact that it doesn't need to define "consciousness" or "observation" is why >> I lik

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Nov 2015, at 19:41, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​​>> ​We know from ​Gleason's theorem​ that in 3 spatial dimensions only the square of Schrodinger's wave (the Born rule), and not the cube or anything else, can yield a probability without

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> We know from ​Gleason's theorem >> ​ that in 3 spatial dimensions only the square of Schrodinger's wave (the >> Born rule), and not the cube or anything else, can yield a probability >> without inconsistencies; so the real questio

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-11-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Oct 2015, at 00:00, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>> ​​No, it does make Einstein wrong because Einstein detested non locality​ even more than he hated non determinism. ​ ​> ​But the experience here does not show the existence of physical non-locality, i

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-05 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​>> ​ >> ​No, it does make Einstein wrong because Einstein detested non locality >> ​ even more than he hated non determinism. ​ >> > ​> ​ > But the experience here does not show the existence of physical > non-locality, it only shows the way we are ent

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Oct 2015, at 21:58, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.05949v1 ​> ​But of course, this does not make Einstein wrong. This shows local non locality, so to speak, ​No, it does make Einstein wrong because Einstein det

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-04 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> From a philosophical point of view ​the universal wave equation is of no >> more importance than lines of latitude and longitude, only the square of >> the absolute value is of any importance and even then it is only a >> probabil

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM, John Clark wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.05949v1 >> >> ​> ​ >> But of course, this does not make Einstein wrong. This shows local non >> locality, so to speak, >> > > ​No, it does make Einstein wro

Re: Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-02 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.05949v1 > > ​> ​ > But of course, this does not make Einstein wrong. This shows local non > locality, so to speak, > ​No, it does make Einstein wrong because Einstein detested non locality ​ even more than he hated n

Violation of Bell inequality. Last big progress.

2015-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
In the Netherlands. http://arxiv.org/abs/1508.05949v1 But of course, this does not make Einstein wrong. This shows local non locality, so to speak, from a many histories point of view. The multiverse, or the solution of some universal wave equation describes a deterministic local evolution