Bruno wrote:
Saibal wrote:
The Great Programmer can presumably compute certain correlations between
our obserations of what we think is a star and the state of the observed
system itself. As I see it the Great Programmer outputs descriptions,
including descriptions of an astronomer
Bruno wrote:
Charles wrote:
(BTW, would I be right in thinking that, applying the SSA to a person who
finds himself to be 1 year old, the chances that he'll
live to be 80 is 1/80?)
This argument (against Leslie Bayesian Doomsday argument) has been
developped by Jean Paul Delahaye in the
According to quantum theory there exists a finite probability that someone
will simulate me in a virtual environment using a computer. This means that
there is a finite probability that I could wake up in a virtual world with
different effective laws of physics. Of course, the real laws of
Maybe Jürgen can explain why the particular
bitstring defining your previous post has such a large probability?
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Bruno wrote:
Saibal Mitra wrote:
Instead of the previously discussed suicide experiments to test various
versions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different
approach.
By deleting certain sectors of one's memory one should be able to travel
to different branches
Jürgen wrote:
``Please read again. If "consciousness" is indeed a
well-defined concept,and if there are any "conscious" computable observers,
then they will becomputed. Otherwise they won't. In either case there is no
need to defineconsciousness - I have not seen a convincing definition
Jürgen wrote:
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Saibal Mitra wrote:
I think the source of the problem is equation 1 of Juergen's paper
such as time and space) can be derived from
nothing more than an arbitrary probability distribution defined over some
arbitrary set.
See http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/math-ph/0008018
Saibal
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Computer Science, abstractcs.LG/0201005 From: Paul Vitanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:44:10 GMT (11kb)
Sharpening Occam's Razor
Authors: Ming Li (Univ.
Waterloo), John Tromp
(CWI), Paul
Vitanyi (CWI and University of Amsterdam)Comments: LaTeX 10
pagesReport-no: CWI
High Energy Physics - Theory, abstracthep-th/0201092 From: Stephen Blaha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:57:12 GMT (634kb)
A Quantum Computer Foundation for the Standard Model and SuperString
Theories
Authors: Stephen
BlahaComments: 78 pages, PDF
We show the Standard Model and
It has been conventional wisdom that the
fundamental laws of physics are not invariant under parity.Now, the
computational complexity of a model that lacks mirror symmetry is
muchlarger than a similar mirror symmetric
model.It would thus be very strange if Nature isindeed not invariant
Hello Bruno,
I did follow a course on Hopf algebras, but that's already some time
ago. I will read the articles you mentioned, should be interesting!
B.t.w. Kreimer has also written some papers with David Broadhurst. He
has done some quite amazing work, see his homepage:
Recently discovered documents detail the steps Nasa
and the Nixon administration would have taken had the Apollo XI astronauts Neil
Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin been unable to return from the moon.
The following is the full text of the unused speech, ominously entitled "In
the event
A new preprint on the mirror matter hypothesis by R. Foot and
T.L. Loon has appeared. My observation that cratering rates on the Moon
point to the presence of mirror asteroids in our solar system is also
included.
See:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/0203152
Abstract:
There are a number of
Robert Foot has written a book on mirror matter. It can be ordered or
downloaded from:
http://www.upublish.com/books/foot.htm
Saibal
I don't understand this point.
Bill Jefferys wrote:
Ockham's razor is a consequence of probability theory, if you look at
things from a Bayesian POV, as I do.
Saibal Mitra
I have made a homepage for Mirror Matter,
It can be found at http://people.zeelandnet.nl/smitra
It is still under construction, comments welcome.
Saibal Mitra
Nick Bostrom's uses the self-sampling assumption without simultaneously
invoking the self-indicating assumption. That's wrong and leads
straightforward to nonsense.
E.g. the Doomsday argument is a closely related fallacy. This is explained
by Ken Olum:
General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology,
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In this paper Olum defends the self-indicating assumption which says that
given the fact you exist you
Maybe it isn't working but only seems to be working due to a white
rabbit.
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Onderwerp: Re: test
At 13:19 -0700 5/05/2002, Wei Dai wrote:
This is a test to make sure the Everything Mailing
Russell wrote:
I take consciousness to be that property essential for the operation
of the Anthropic Principle. The universe is the way it is because we
are here observing it as conscious beings.
The first problem this raises is why does the anthropic principle
work? - one can conceive
This all assumes that photons, electrons, etc. are real. We don't know that.
If you were Einstein, and you were faced with Bell's result, you could have
concluded that the nonexistence of local hidden variables implies that
elementary paricles don't exist. They are mere mathematical tools to
MWI is a fully deterministic theory, but it is not the
only deterministic theory consistent with QM.
I believe that 't Hooft's theory is more natural from the point of view that
universes are programs. It is hard for me to understand how you get
interference between ``nearby´´ universes or
Gordon wrote:
Saibal Mitra wrote:
This all assumes that photons, electrons, etc. are real. We don't know
that.
If you were Einstein, and you were faced with Bell's result, you could
have
concluded that the nonexistence of local hidden variables implies that
elementary paricles don't
Hello Stephen,
Here are the references to 't Hooft's papers. Ref. 3 is written for
non-specialists, and should be easy to follow.
Greetings,
Saibal
[1] Quantum Gravity as a Dissipative Deterministic System
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9903084
[2] Determinism in Free Bosons
The very act of predicting what you will choose is equivalent to generating
you virtually and observing what box you will choose. So, when you stand in
front of the two boxes, you don't know if you are in the real world or in
the virtual world. The causal argument is thus invalid.
The only way
Exp(Pi*Sqrt(n)) PageThis table lists values of Exp(Pi*Sqrt(n)), for
some selected values of n up to 1000. Some of these values are very close to
integers. A prize will be awarded to anyone who can either convincingly
argue that this is coincidence, or who can explain why this is so in terms
Hal Finney wrote: ``Unfortunately it does not seem
likely that an explanation suitable for a college senior is available,
unless he is willing to educate himself for several months on higher
mathematics.´´
I suspect that Roy Williams Clickery included this condition so that he
always has an
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0204256
Ordinary atom-mirror atom bound states: A new window on the mirror
world
Authors: R. Foot, S.
MitraComments: about 8 pages, couple of changes
Mirror symmetry is a plausible candidate for a fundamental
symmetry of particle interactions which can be
I think that the difference is that invoking the SIA does not affect the
conclusion of the paper.
Saibal
Wei Dai wrote:
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:45:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dyson, L., Kleban, M. Susskind, L. Disturbing implications of a
cosmological constant. Preprint
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Onderwerp: Re: Doomsday-like argument in cosmology
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 11:28:28PM +0200, Saibal Mitra wrote:
I think that the difference is that invoking the SIA does not affect
Thenew edition of Siegel's textbook ``Fields´´ can be
downloaded from:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/9912205
Saibal
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Onderwerp: Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they
here?
At 9:36 -0700 1/10/2002, Tim May wrote:
MWI looks,
),
... or it would be equivalent with Everett (accepting that quantum
contextuality + realism implies the many-things).
Bruno
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I think that Newcomb's paradox does provide evidence for machine
consciousness, independent of implementation.
[A reminder. Newcomb's paradox: A highly superior being from another part
of the galaxy presents you with two boxes, one open and one closed. In the
open box there is a thousand-dollar
Hal Finney wrote:
Maybe you could look at the list archive at
http://www.mail-archive.com/everything-list%40eskimo.com/maillist.html
and say which posts from, say, December 30th and 31st you would reject.
(Or, if the list would be shorter, you could say which posts in that
period you would
Hall Finney: ''You might want to clarify what you mean by quantum suicide
working. What do you hope to accomplish via QS? What effect will it
have on your subjective perceptions?''
By ''quantum suicide working'' I mean that you could make the probability of
winning the lottery as close to
, Saibal Mitra wrote:
Actually, one doesn't have to dig very deep in the archive. This very
thread
is an example of an off topic irrelevant discussion. Irrelevant,
because
there are so few other postings that should not have appeared on this
list.
Perhaps instead of creating a seperate
Well, just perform this simple experiment to find out. See:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0301229
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302131
astro-ph/0302131 [abs, ps(600), other] :
Title: Parallel Universes
Authors: Max Tegmark (Penn)
Comments: 18 pages, 8 figs. A less technical adaptation is scheduled for the
May 2003 issue of Scientific American. Version with full-resolution figs at
this http
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0212095
Determinism beneath Quantum Mechanics
Author: Gerard 't Hooft (Spinoza Institute, Utrecht University)
Comments: Conf. Proceedings, Quo Vadis Quantum Mechanics, Philadelphia,
2002, 12 pages, 1 figure Postscript
Report-no: ITP-02/69; SPIN-2002/45
Contrary to
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Onderwerp: Re: Parmenides' Principle
However, no where in the
multiverse is the charge on an electron 4 Coulombs. Somewhere in the
plentitude, however,
This sounds very strange to me. Arguably one could say that my brain is
simulating me (where I associate myself with a particular algorithm). I
would say that any physical process computing me has to have my
consciousness. So, if someone starts to simulate me, there is a 50%
probability that I
Bruno wrote:
I agree with you except that I don't see how the omniscient simulator
will
miss your small cross on the wall, because this will make some change
in your scanned brain, and He will take those changes into account.
So, giving the hypotheses, your if the creature is unaware of this
Leibniz, Information, Math and PhysicsAuthors: G. J.
Chaitin (IBM Research)Subj-class: History and
OverviewMSC-class: 68Q30
The information-theoretic point of view proposed by Leibniz in
1686 and developed by algorithmic information theory (AIT) suggests that
mathematics and physics
There have been many replies to this. I would say that you wouldn't expect
to survive such accidents.
Assume that we are sampled from a probability distribution over a set of
possible states. E.g. in eternal inflation theories all possible quantum
states the observable universe can be in are all
consistent with ''normal'' physics.
Saibal
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Onderwerp: Re: Quantum accident survivor
I disagree. You can only get
Russell wrote:
The empirical problem with the ASSA is that under most reasonable
proposals for the absolute measure, observer moments corresponding to
younger people have higher measure than older people. Whilst the
reference class issue puts a lower bound on how old you would expect
to be,
There are some problems with this as Eric has pointed out.
The best way to define identity, i.m.o., would be to say that a program is a
SAS having an identity. If that SAS experience the outcome of an experiment,
it's program will be changed by the mere fact it has acquired the memory of
the
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Subject: Peculiarities of our universe
There are a couple of peculiarities of our universe which it would be
nice if the All-Universe Hypothesis (AUH) could explain,
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Subject: Re: Peculiarities of our universe
One other scenario is that a civilization has indeed reached this
pervasive
state, but not in a form we'd
I don't think there are many intelligent beings per cubic Plank length in
our universe at all! In fact, string theorists don't know how to get to the
standard model from their favorite theory, yet they still believe in it.
Simple deterministic models could certainly explain our laws of physics, as
Congratulations!
B.t.w., I don't like the doublespaced version on
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0001020
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Subject: Occam's Razor now published
This means that the relative measure is completely fixed by the absolute
measure. Also the relative measure is no longer defined when probabilities
are not conserved (e.g. when the observer may not survive an experiment as
in quantum suicide). I don't see why you need a theory of consciousness.
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Saibal Mitra wrote:
This means that the relative measure is completely fixed by the absolute
measure. Also
-similar
states can anyway) with the passage
of time (OR with lower probability in a shorter time.)
Maybe?
Eric
Saibal Mitra wrote:
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http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0404045
Quantum mechanics without quantum logic
Authors: D.A. Slavnov
Comments: 24 pages, no figures, Latex
We describe a scheme of quantum mechanics in which the Hilbert space and
linear operators are only secondary structures of the theory. As primary
This is the ''white rabbit'' problem which was discussed on
this list a few
years ago. This can be solved by assuming that there exists
a measure over
the set of al universes, favoring simpler ones.
Also, note that there is no such thing as ''next possible''
states. Once you
consider the whole
I remember discussing this with you a few months ago. I am still not
convinced though :-)
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Onderwerp: Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?
Saibal
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Verzonden: Monday, April 26, 2004 03:00 AM
Onderwerp: Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?
At 10:48 AM 4/25/04, Saibal Mitra wrote:
This is the ''white rabbit'' problem which was discussed
Even if there is only one World, there would still be a sort of Many Worlds
branching after each quantum observation, see here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0102010
Many worlds in one
Authors: Jaume Garriga, Alexander Vilenkin
Comments: 9 pages, 2 figures, comments and references added
I just read the New Scientist article Quantum Rebel last night about
Shariar Afshar's work on the double slit experiment. Ingenious as the
experiment is, I really don't think it says anything about different
interpretations of QM. Indeed, the outcome of the experiment is just
what I'd expect from
The probability that Russell's message contained a virus was low (he uses
linux) but nonzero. So, I guess that's bad news for some of my copies in the
multiverse.
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Saibal Mitra wrote:
Now in the article, Afshar claims to have measured which slit the
photon passed through and verified the existence of an interference
pattern. However, this is not the case - without the wires in
place to detect the presence of the interference pattern, photons
arriving
Unfortunately, sensationalists articles that are completely baloney appear
in most scientific journals from time to time.
Nature published an article claiming that if the fine structure conswtant is
changing, as suggested by some astronomical observations, then this change
must be due to a change
That's correct, but such theories can be mapped to
theories with constant C. Ultimately only dimensionless constants matter,
all other constants are just conversion factors.
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Questioning whether the speed of light has changed within a certain class of
theories is nonsense and this is not an opinion but an elementary
mathematical fact. Of course, one may e.g. question whether photons are
massive and whether this mass has changed, leading to a (wavelength
dependent)
I agree. If the photon did behave in an erratic way you would be able to say
that the photon is behaving erratic and not the laws of physics that make
your instruments work. But in this hypothetical case you would use some
other way to relate time to space. This relation also has to involve a
Maybe we should look at deterministic theories, such as:
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0104219
John M wrote:
Yet it would be refreshing to approach the concept from another side
(another framework), - maybe a new one??
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Onderwerp: Re: Quantum Rebel - complementarity
Thanks! Maybe even further?
John M
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From: Saibal Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Russell Standish [EMAIL
The properties of ordinary matterare strongly
constrained by the anthropic principle. In soome cases you can even calculate
non trivial things. E.g. the anthropic reasoning was used by Hoyle
to prove the existence of an energy level of the carbon-12 nucleus.
Dark matter seems to be much
Download the article free of charge here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0404156
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Verzonden: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 07:09 PM
Onderwerp: Ambjørn et al.
Of possible general interest -
J. Ambjørn J.
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311059
Authors: Fotini
Markopoulou, Lee
Smolin
We provide a mechanism by which, from a background independent
model with no quantum mechanics, quantum theory arises in the same limit in
which spatial properties appear. Starting with an arbitrary abstract
There is another argument (also mentioned by Hal on this list some time ago)
that also suggests that the measure must decay faster than 2^(-program
length). This arguments involve the anthropic factor. The measure for an
observer to find himself in a universe is the product of an ''intrinsic''
I more or less agree with Jesse. But I would say that the measure of
similarity should also be an absolute measure that multiplied with the
absolute measure defines a new effective absolute measure for a given
observer.
Given the absolute measure you can define effective conditional
I agree with Hal. The measure is doubled after copying. So, this is sort of
the reverse of a suicide experiment in which the measure decreases. If you
consider a doubling in which one of the copies doesn't survive then the
measure stays the same, while in suicide experiment it decreases.
Both
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0504200
Quantum Behavior of Deterministic Systems with Information Loss. Path
Integral ApproachAuthors: M.
Blasone, P. Jizba,
H.
KleinertComments: 11 pages, RevTeXSubj-class: Quantum
Physics; Mathematical Physics
't Hooft's derivation of quantum from
The MWI made me take the idea of multiple universes/multiple realities
serious. When I joined this list I believed that quantum suicide could work,
but I later found out that it cannot possibly work. I now believe that there
exists an ensemble of all possible mathematical
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Onderwerp: Re: Memory erasure
You can turn this whole chain of logic around and make it an argument
against
If you accept that you can experience having been unconscious, then you also
have to accept that you can survive with memory loss in any branch.
This means that if you are faced with almost certain death, it is more
likely that you will find yourself alive in a completely different sector of
the
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Onderwerp: Re: Implications of MWI
Le 01-mai-05, à 16:51, Saibal Mitra a écrit
I would have to read about these theories, but I think that it
doesn'tmatter if you work with complex measures.
Saibal
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Verzonden: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 03:47 PM
Onderwerp: Re: Many worlds theory of immortality
2 weeks ago Saibal Mitra wrote:
I don't think that the MW immortality is correct at all! In a certain
sense
we are
immortal, because the enseble of all possible worlds is a fixed
static
Russell Standish
wrote: With my TIME postulate, I say that a conscious
observer necessarily experiences a sequence of related observer moments
(or even a continuum of them). To argue that observer moments are
independent of each other is to argue the negation of TIME. With TIME,
the
A Hamel basis is a set H such that every element of the vector space is a
*unique* *finite* linear combination of elements in H.
This can be proven using Zorn's lemma, which is a direct consequence of the
Axiom of Choice. The idea of the proof is as follows. If you start with an H
that is too
Hi Patrick,
Welcome to the list!
When I was a student a friend told me about transfinite induction. While
ordinary induction allows you to generalize from n to n + 1 and thus to a
countable set, transfinite induction enables you to explore the continuum.
He didn't explain how it was done,
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Onderwerp: Many Pasts? Not according to QM...
Of course, many of you (maybe all) may be defining pasts from an
information-theoretic point of
Plaga's paper has been published:
''Proposal for an experimental test of the
many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics''
Found.Phys. 27 (1997) 559
arXiv: quant-ph/9510007
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Quoting Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 25th May 2005 Saibal Mitra wrote:
One of the arguments in favor of the observer moment picture is that it
solves Tegmark's quantum suicide paradox. If you start with a set of all
possible observer moments on which a measure is defined (which
that moment and look back - you have parallel
pasts that begin from the point of decoherence.
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To: everything-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Many Pasts? Not according to QM...
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:24:23 +0200
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Onderwerp: Re: Many Pasts? Not according to QM...
Saibal Mitra wrote:
Quoting Stathis Papaioannou
Hi Stathis,
I think that your example below was helpful to clarify the disagreement.
You say that randomly sampling from all the files is not 'how real life
works'. However, if you did randomly sample from all the files the result
would not be different from the selective time ordered sampling
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"Stathis Papaioannou" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
everything-list@eskimo.comSent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:28
AMSubject: Re: objections to QTIHi Stathis,I think that your
example below was helpful to clarify the disagreement. You say that
Hi Stephen,
My point is that time as a pointer that points to what exists and what not
(anymore or yet), cannot exist. You can indeed map the set of all such
pointers to the real line. I agree that relativity is inconsistent with
such an idea of time.
Saibal
Hi Saibal
Are you defining
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