[Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Due to the annoying increased dependencies on systemd I would like to run evolution without having to install gnome-session, which drags in a lot of packages I don't want, especially the libsystemd-* stuff. Neither do I want network manager for internet connection. Is that possible at all, or

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 13:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Due to the annoying increased dependencies on systemd I would like to run evolution without having to install gnome-session, which drags in a lot of packages I don't want, especially the libsystemd-* stuff. Neither do I want network

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 14:48 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 13:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Due to the annoying increased dependencies on systemd I would like to run evolution without having to install gnome-session, which drags in a lot of packages I don't want,

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
For me evo starts, but does not connect to internet at all, the link is up and other applications works, e.g. iceweasel and apt?? So you need to start Evo with some debugging variables set so you can see more of what's happening and why it's not retrieving mail. See info at

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 15:23 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: I have both gvfs and pulseaudio installed, but I don't think removing them will change anything? That are my preferences, I only mentioned them, to show that hard dependencies sometimes are unneeded and it won't break software, if you

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 16:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 15:23 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: I have both gvfs and pulseaudio installed, but I don't think removing them will change anything? That are my preferences, I only mentioned them, to show that hard dependencies

[Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Regarding to your wish to stay away from systemd: I wasted much time with bad emotions when fighting against systemd, when Arch Linux made the transition. Many others had similar emotions and some of them were banned from the Arch mailing list. Don't waste your energy in the same way, systemd

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
The only message of interest is? ** (evolution:13636): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-KviD8yWNAI: Connection refused Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module (but I think I saw this before removing a lot of gnome

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 15:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I know you don't like network manager, but sometimes if Evo can't get an answer from NM it assumes no network and goes offline - it certainly used to do that, but I thought it had been fixed. I'm sure that is fixed, since I don't use NM and

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 15:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote: The only message of interest is? ** (evolution:13636): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-KviD8yWNAI: Connection refused Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module

Re: [Evolution] Keyboard Shortcuts for Mark as Read and Unread?

2014-02-15 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 18:33 +, G.W. Haywood wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:45 +, G.W. Haywood wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 03:07 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote: I checked the help pages to

Re: [Evolution] How to Detach Attachments?

2014-02-15 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:29 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 18:42 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote: Would there be a way to detach attachments, like save first and then delete. Not that I am aware of, except for the described two steps. Optionally, a link can replace the

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10 very much slower than 3.8

2014-02-15 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 11:29 +, Graham Murray wrote: I am running Evolution 3.10.4 connecting to Exchange server with EWS. Since upgrading from 3.8.5 to 3.10.4, evolution is taking considerably longer to perform most functions. Now it takes a very long time to update message counts, for

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
To get rid of those messages make sure that dbus is running and that you have libcanberra-gtk-module installed. But I don't think the messages are fatal. It is installed, and dbus is running, still Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module canberra is just for playing

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 16:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Regarding to your wish to stay away from systemd: I wasted much time with bad emotions when fighting against systemd, when Arch Linux made the transition. Many others had similar emotions and some of them were banned from the Arch

Re: [Evolution] Human readable entries in Seahorse

2014-02-15 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 14:15 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 11:45 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 08:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: This one is a bit of a bugger [the cryptic names in Seahorse - even just having an attached vanity name would be

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10 very much slower than 3.8

2014-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 11:29 +, Graham Murray wrote: Since upgrading from 3.8.5 to 3.10.4, evolution is taking considerably longer to perform most functions. Now it takes a very long time to update message counts, for example in the 'junk' folder as I write this is claims -1 unread, 0

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10 very much slower than 3.8

2014-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
Just for the hell of it, try cleaning the SQL database: 1) Shut down Evo completely 2) Run: cd ~/.cache/.evolution/mail/ That should be ~/.cache/evolution/mail/ P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 12:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 16:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Regarding to your wish to stay away from systemd: I wasted much time with bad emotions when fighting against systemd, when Arch Linux made the transition. Many others had

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: I really hope there are sufficiently many people opposing systemd You are using Debian, right? For Debian this decision already was made. Jessie = systemd. Maybe Gentoo has enough people to keep SysVinit/initscripts for a while, other than

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: I really hope there are sufficiently many people opposing systemd I wasted my power and I understand that you are willing to fight, but the war already is lost. You're wasting your

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
Yes, I can by supporting something that can be better in due time, and that's OpenRC, why don't you update yourself on that piece of software. (it does not use cgroups, that's one advantage for example) According to the various websites, it does use cgroups ... My take on these things is

Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:16 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Yes, I can by supporting something that can be better in due time, and that's OpenRC, why don't you update yourself on that piece of software. (it does not use cgroups, that's one advantage for example) According to the various

Re: [Evolution] Internal server error occurred

2014-02-15 Thread Ángel
Pálmar Þorsteinsson wrote: Hi All, Ever since my work place moved their mail services off of own Exchange servers to cloud based Office 365 I've been having problems sending, receiving and working with email using Evolution. Currently I'm running version 3.8.4 on Ubuntu 13.10 but this

Re: [Evolution] Human readable entries in Seahorse

2014-02-15 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 12:51 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 14:15 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 11:45 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 08:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: This one is a bit of a bugger [the cryptic names

Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-15 Thread Ángel
Do you have gnome-keyring installed? Pete Biggs wrote: (...) C2 OK CAPABILITY completed. ' [imapx:B] camel_imapx_read: buffer is '* CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 XYZZY SASL-IR AUTH=XOAUTH AUTH=XOAUTH2 AUTH=PLAIN

[Evolution] Issues accessing gmail (IMAP+)?

2014-02-15 Thread Paul Smith
Hi all. I've recently upgraded to Evolution 3.11.3 using the Evolution PPA for Ubuntu (I'm running Linux Mint 16). Overall I really like it, but it seems like there's some issue with accessing gmail accounts (but not my ISP IMAP account). If I look at my gmail account with my browser I'll see I

Re: [Evolution] Issues accessing gmail (IMAP+)?

2014-02-15 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 17:34 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: Overall I really like it, but it seems like there's some issue with accessing gmail accounts (but not my ISP IMAP account). If I look at my gmail account with my browser I'll see I have a few new emails, but Evolution says I have no new

[Evolution] evolution and courier-mta (IMAP): broken messages

2014-02-15 Thread Ángel
I have been recently attempting to connect evolution to a courier IMAP server (4.10.0). evolution was unable to show the email contents. The folders and thread view of available emails (subject, from, date…) are ok, but clicking one of them doesn't show the body. Inspection of message source from