Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-05 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 5.11.2022 o godz. 02:34:55 Steve Litt pisze: > > I have 20 years and probably more email messages than you spoke of. I > don't think any email client on earth is built to hold that volume of > email. I have probably a more than 20 years mail archive. Mutt (running directly on the server

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-02 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 2.11.2022 o godz. 12:36:54 Paul Smith pisze: > to create such a list, and (b) someone with admin privileges to the > current list to get all the subscriber emails so they can be bulk- > added. I know that moderators don't have such privileges (I run some > mailman lists myself as an admin,

Re: [Evolution] google oauth OOB flow error - ideas?

2022-11-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 1.11.2022 o godz. 12:49:17 Milan Crha via evolution-list pisze: > > There is no workaround for it, the only options you have: > - update to the version, which has the fix included > - update whole distribution version > - change distribution to some which provides it [1] [...] When talking

Re: [Evolution] google oauth OOB flow error - ideas?

2022-11-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 1.11.2022 o godz. 10:05:54 Torsten Krah via evolution-list pisze: > > I am using evolution 3.36.5 (little bit dated I know) and I am getting > this error today when requesting one of the calendars: Same for me after I changed password for a Gmail account I had configured in Evolution.

Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 1.11.2022 o godz. 07:50:18 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > > I noticed something similar for another app I used a lot. The app's name > is "Meld". It is an irony of fate that mc's mailing list was also on a > GNOME Foundation server, so I took another look at mc and found that >

Re: [Evolution] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 24.10.2022 o godz. 12:49:00 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > I briefly used Google Groups a long time ago, though I think it has > changed since then. They do offer a fairly broad range of facilities, > including email access, admin and moderator roles, and the focus on a > specific topic

Re: [Evolution] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 23.10.2022 o godz. 18:15:49 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 17:57 +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > > * groups.io - way too expensive for us > > * riseup.net - political organization > > * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience > > * Freedesktop -

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 11:46:26 Greg Oliver via evolution-list pisze: > > You know - I am not one to bad mouth anyone, but us od timers who remember > when the web did not exist - only gopher, irc and nntp - we appreciate the > ease of scripting email and perusing the subject as well. Nowadays,

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 09:09:48 Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list pisze: > > Agreed, discourse is an not much better than a surreptitiously installed > remote access tool.  It is invasive  and darn near impossible to remove > from window devices. > > Between my wife, my daughter and my

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 14:57:04 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > As others have said, Evolution is primarily an email client, and it > makes sense that its main support forum should be a properly managed > mailing list. A quick and simple question: who is in position to decide to move this list

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 13:04:15 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > It seems to take some time. I suspect Discourse is batching emails. Which also means it is *not* a replacement for a mailing list. Typical mailing list sends out messages once they are received. Of course, a mailing list subscriber

Re: [Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 13:29:00 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > Even if we should be able to use this thingy as a mailing list, there > will unlikely be a lot of new subscribers who are friends of mailing > lists, hence new subscribers will probably not follow posting style > etiquette

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 22:58:33 Andrea Veri pisze: > category, you can send an email to the applicati...@discourse.gnome.org > email and it gets automatically posted to Discourse, like you do today with > Mailman. In the background we can configure an automatic tag, that is > whenever the

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 22:43:11 Andrea Veri pisze: > But please, very please, let's just stop complaining for the sake of doing > so and without having even tried using the new tool. They say, "the better is an enemy of the good"... Or in other words, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... --

Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question

2022-10-17 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.10.2022 o godz. 19:14:36 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > To get rid of gtk3 client side decoration on an up to date Arch > Linux rolling release, I'm using https://github.com/ZaWertun/gtk3-nocsd Hm... I tried gtk3-nocsd (not on Evolution though, as my version does not use CSD,

Re: [Evolution] Mailing list?

2022-10-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 15.10.2022 o godz. 13:48:14 Pete Biggs pisze: > > So, why are they not always there? Well it's a bit of a bugbear of mine > (and others). If someone does a Reply-all to the list on one of my > messages their mail program will send out a number of messages: to the > list; to me; to anyone

Re: [Evolution] weird bug: mismatch between the message list and preview pane

2022-10-08 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 8.10.2022 o godz. 02:31:32 Steve Litt pisze: > > Or you could do what I do and install Dovecot IMAP server on your computer, > and use > fetchmail to grab from Yahoo and procmail to drop each message into the proper > Dovecot IMAP Maildir folder. All your filters would be in procmail

Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-10-03 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 3.10.2022 o godz. 07:42:38 Milan Crha via evolution-list pisze: > > I know Gmail used to "de-duplicate" messages by the message ID, not by > its content. When you send a message to a mailing list and store the > sent message on the Gmail side, the Gmail silently "ignored/drops" the >

Re: [Evolution] Stop Evolution Automatically Asking to Decrypt Messages

2022-10-02 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 2.10.2022 o godz. 14:16:52 Pete Biggs pisze: > > > BTW, putting that segment of a PGP encryption in your email causes > > > problems - my Evolution tried to decrypt it because it thought it > > > looked exactly like a PGP part of the message. > > > > I think that's wrong. Evolution

Re: [Evolution] Stop Evolution Automatically Asking to Decrypt Messages

2022-10-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 1.10.2022 o godz. 14:21:45 Pete Biggs pisze: > > BTW, putting that segment of a PGP encryption in your email causes > problems - my Evolution tried to decrypt it because it thought it > looked exactly like a PGP part of the message. I think that's wrong. Evolution shouldn't try to decrypt

Re: [Evolution] Forwarding a mail to action fraud that is potentially fraudulent

2022-09-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 15.09.2022 o godz. 12:22:13 Pete Biggs pisze: > > The mail must be using different SMTP servers. It's unlikely that an > SMTP server would treat mail differently from different clients. Unless the client on the phone encodes the forwarded mail in some way that causes the SMTP server not

Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-13 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 13.09.2022 o godz. 08:39:44 Milan Crha via evolution-list pisze: > > It's called Client Side Decorations, and it had been changed within: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/108 > It's an attempt to follow GNOME Human Interface Guidelines, > specifically the part

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 23:24:37 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > Spam filtering is under the control of the receiver. It's trivial to > tell Gmail that a message is not spam, and it will learn that for > future reference. It does not. Myself I have two test accounts on Gmail, I send myself mail

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 22:37:23 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > And the free version of Gmail has by far the best spam filtering I've > come across. In fact I don't even bother with Bogofilter or > Spamassassin any more. Well, it's "too good". All mails from my address usually go to spam at Gmail,

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 13:14:04 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > Yes, I would concede that. I occasionally do that as it's a way of > > fetching mail *into* my Gmail account from another account. However > > that's a special case. > > Just to add that this isn't an actual advantage of POP in

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 12:22:55 Andre Klapper via evolution-list pisze: > On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 12:19 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > There is one more valid reason to use POP: if you have a main mail account > > (A) and a secondary one (B), and you want to have all messages from account > > B

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 11:12:12 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > We've been over this before. There's nothing stopping you from syncing > your IMAP account to your local machine. There is *NO* advantage to > using POP, and a number of disadvantages. The only reason to ever use > it is if your mail

Re: [Evolution] Storage location for Evolution files

2022-07-13 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 13.07.2022 o godz. 16:06:00 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > Regarding your email's mailer header you are using Ubuntu, so my > recommendation is to send a request to > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users by providing more > information. You can also ask on

Re: [Evolution] Rescheduling events in any android app kills evolution "run a program" reminder

2022-07-12 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 11.07.2022 o godz. 08:55:02 roachoaz--- via evolution-list pisze: > > The problem is that when you reschedule the event in any calendar on android > (specifically, etar and simple calendar tools, as well as a bunch of closed > sourced calendars from the app store), the "run a program"

Re: [Evolution] Deleting emails from the server

2022-07-10 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 10.07.2022 o godz. 15:54:35 David Robkin via evolution-list pisze: > I apologize at the start, I do not have my Evolution version on this device. > I am running on an Ubutnu laptop and Evolution seems to be deleting the > emails off the server when it downloads them. I can't seem to find a

Re: [Evolution] unable to save read port

2022-07-04 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 4.07.2022 o godz. 10:04:49 Pete Biggs pisze: > By far the most prevalent form of email "hacking" is phishing. Both App > Passwords and OAuth2 (and also MFA) dissociate your password from being > the only thing necessary to gain access to your email. In that way, > they are a significant

Re: [Evolution] unable to save read port

2022-07-04 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 4.07.2022 o godz. 00:06:14 Richard pisze: > > I believe that when using 3rd-party email clients Yahoo now requires > that you either set up and use a yahoo "app password", or OAuth 2. I > don't think that using the yahoo site-password will work any longer > with a 3rd-party mail client. So

Re: [Evolution] Controlling Signatures

2022-07-04 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 3.07.2022 o godz. 14:41:10 N B Day via evolution-list pisze: > I've appended the output of my "halfgeek" script which reads my gps, figures > out which airport I'm nearest and gets the weather and shows how antique the > computer I'm using is and how (unfortunately very) antique I am. The

Re: [Evolution] Something changed ...

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 10:09:39 Milan Crha via evolution-list pisze: > > Nonetheless, your Evolution (and the evolution-data-server) is ancient, I know it looks differently from the developer's point of view, but I still don't think it is the right term to call "ancient" a release that is

Re: [Evolution] Evolution - Dealing with groups

2022-05-06 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 5.05.2022 o godz. 21:38:05 Ubuntu Shoto Dojo pisze: > I can send to a group as a Contact List. > > How can I receive from a group? I need to receive response (or unexpected > messages from the group and put them together (group them) in a folder. I > can find nothing in the filters