RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Neither did he. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:

RE: Deleting remotely from another Outlook instance

2003-12-12 Thread Tony Hlabse
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262399&Product=exch2k From: "Erik L. Vesneski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Deleting remotely from another Outlook instance Date: Fri, 12 Dec

RE: Deleting remotely from another Outlook instance

2003-12-12 Thread Edgington, Jeff
Well, you have two ways that I can think of. 1. Use Exmerge (look at the documentation... it explains how to do this) 2. Use the equivalent of the old exchange 5.5 service account and outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik L.

Deleting remotely from another Outlook instance

2003-12-12 Thread Erik L. Vesneski
Heya, I have a situation. On Win2k Exchange 2k. With Outlook I open another person's email mailbox as requested by legal and management. I delete out the item however how do I permanently delete that deleted item without changing their pw and logging in as them. I do have OWA in place too.

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's no lie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I can't be the Captain because I don't look good in shorts. Ed Cro

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
I can't be the Captain because I don't look good in shorts. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, Dece

RE: OT: WAS Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
"No, it does not mean that you unethical for not agreeing with my position on MVP's." No, it makes you sensible. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Outlook XP -> Exch 2ksp3 POP3 Login problems

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Better yet, quit using POP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchang

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Ah. That would be "Reh row". Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:01 PM To: Excha

RE: XCH 2k3 public folders in mixed site

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Are you sure the underlying query returns any results? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Perhaps you should bill fewer hours to compensate. On the whole, it'd probably be a huge win for everyone. Except for you, of course. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
No, you are the Capt. Don is Julie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Are you calling me a coke addict? Ed Crowley

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
You can relay off a box that is not exposed to the Internet for incoming mail too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy Se

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
If you feel that way, a locked down Windows 2003 box running the SMTP service is just as capable as a Unix box running sendmail. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Are you calling me a coke addict? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:03 PM To:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
The same guy who played Siegfried from KAOS. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM T

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
It will never be a fact that "MVPs are unethical" because it simply isn't true unless we are held to your silly standards. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
The truth is the truth whether or not you remember it, misrepresent it, or lie about it. The truth is that there is an MVP web site, http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;mvpfaqs, which discloses that we get some stuff. Nobody has ever tried to hide anything. In the thread y

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Guilty conscience too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:11 PM To: Exchange Discu

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Roger Seielstad
His qualifies as a six head -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:23 PM > To: Exc

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
And how does sendmail (or any other SMTP server for that matter) differ as far as allowing someone to send email to someone in a different domain - relaying? Jeff -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:24 PM To: Exchange Discuss

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
We have a few of those around campus - mostly Mac heads though. 22 years old is all you had to say... We have a 22 year old Mac Tech who is also very bright and really knows his stuff but has the anti-MS attitude from hell as well. We have tried to get him to see that he has a great opportunity he

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
That's what they "want" you to believe... I think he preferred guys... That's why Martin wants to be the Doc... :P -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread John Parker
I get to be doc then. He always got busy with the chix. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Clishe
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy > If $1200 is 25% of a GW-Ex migration for 700 people then the project was severely underscoped > and underbid. No kidding. The design and implementation plan alone for a project of that size is w

RE: Seeking documentation

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/upgrade/default.mspx Scroll down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Seeking documentation Thanks for reading. I am looking into

Seeking documentation

2003-12-12 Thread chrisspan
Thanks for reading. I am looking into migrating to SBS 2003 from Windows NT 4 domain. I have a PDC (NT4), SQL 2000(Win2k) and Exchange 5.5 (NT4) all running on separate servers. I have not found any documentation about the upgrade/migration of this particular scenario. Any help? [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
More of a fivehead eh? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12,

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Forehead = Pen... :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PR

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
This from the man with a really tall forehead and chicken legs... Who are you to talk? :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You and Don should

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 This from the man with a really tall forehead

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
Coochie Coochie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg -Origina

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Who the hell was that? I don't remember

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You and Don should not be talking about hairlines -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Good choice. The doctor has the s

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Who the hell was that? I don't remember no Charo! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original Mess

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
Good choice. The doctor has the same hairline and legs as you. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director.

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message---

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message-

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
I gotta do something! Apparently, if I were even LUCKY enough to get nominated to be an MVP, I'd be violating some code of ethics that doesn't exist if I were to accept such a nomination :( -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ok, so who plays Capt. Stubin

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Candee Vaglica
You guys crack me up. =) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU... -O

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Ok, so who plays Capt. Stubin? :p -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU..

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Or is it...

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Or is it... The LOVE Boat... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We're expecting YOU... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 We have a love connect

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
We have a love connection!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Pickens Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75 and Carut

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75 and Caruth Haven. Right across from Northpark mall in the big ugly gold towers. Traffic on 75 is horrid right now. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions S

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
I am owned by my MSDN cd cases and Microsoft pens. Long live the overlord! It's raining here (Dallas, TX), too. (A very wet) Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Rachel

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
I was not arguing with you about the symantics between fact & opinion, just rather pointing out that you tend to assert your opinions as fact. That is a very abrasive personality trait and probably explains why the discussion list has reacted to you the way that they have. Eric Fretz L-3 Communi

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
There's no physical proof that you as a so-called professional are not unethical either. When did you stop beating your wife? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Su

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
There will always be people too stupid not to use POP3 as well. What can you say. POP3 is an unsecure and unsecurable protocol without adding something else. You can use multiple interfaces and have your POP clients connect differently. You can allow relaying only if they first set up a VPN con

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
If $1200 is 25% of a GW-Ex migration for 700 people then the project was severely underscoped and underbid. It seems like the customer has chosen cost over quality. C'est la vie. As for your positions, they are your opinion. Not fact. Not an opinion that many people agree with either. There a

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Pens, Post-It Pads, the occasional portfolio-pad-book thing, mouse or logo watch (I don't wear wristwatches). Nice trinkets, most of which my wife takes. Doctors and lawyers get truckloads of vendor gifts. My mother is a cancer researcher. Every coffee mug she owns has a pharmaceutical name on i

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
Jolyon, This Greg doesn't see it that way... He thinks the pens and mousepads are evil, and will corrupt you. But note, he he thinks utility software should be free. (he mentioned Novell by name) You missed the last time this subject came up, it raged for a week with no real conclusion. He i

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
I was going to ask what form this compensation took. So it's on the level of the free pens the drugs companies give to doctors rather than being so much greater than the salary your employer pays that your loyalty lies utterly with Microsoft then? *Phew* Also, can I say again that hawaiilawyer.c

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
I don't recall ever claiming to not be compensated -- though I hardly call what I receive from Microsoft to be "compensation" in any significant understanding of the word. Furthermore this so-called "compensation" appears to be misplaced, since it hasn't altered my behavior. I provided support

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
That's true, your beliefs being on the fringe does not make them any less correct. It's the fact that you're wrong that makes them less correct. This imagined ethical crisis you've come up with simply doesn't exist. The vast majority of MVPs are interested in the best solution to the given challe

RE: Best backup software for Exchange

2003-12-12 Thread East, Bill
I love my Gammy but I won't let her sit on a freshly-upholstered sofa. -- be - MOS > -Original Message- > From: Ronald Mazzotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:28 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Best backup software for Exchange > > > Funny

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I wonder if any Linux people like the WTO :) -Original Message- From: Sean Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail >Oh, let me tell you, he hates Bill, Microcrap comes out of

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Hi russki -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Just call me Russki. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
We do it because puremessage runs on sendmail. -Original Message- From: Sean Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail >Back to my original question, we use Surf Control in fron

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Anything that is not a fact is an opinion. It will never be a fact that MVP's are unethical, because not everyone is going to agree on it and there is no physical proof either way. > No, you can make a statement as a fact or as an opinion. It is how you > quantify the statement that sets the dist

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
>Oh, let me tell you, he hates Bill, Microcrap comes out of his mouth far too often. He's only 22 years old and a genius kid, good natured, knows his stuff. He is also an MCSE only because he was forced into it. The fact that someone develops a product to sell and then gets rich really pisses th

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
Brilliant comic timing. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Just call me Russki. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Yes, you were lucky. I have seen this exact scenario happen a couple times now. Fy

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
>Back to my original question, we use Surf Control in front of SendMail which then forwards on to the Exchange Servers. Why would you put SendMail in as an intermediary? Is just the way Unix/Linux admins do things or is there a valid reason? Thanks for the replies. Good Information. It al

RE: Server-based autoresponder for exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Well, a server-based rule will work even when Outlook is not running. However it will present a great danger of starting a mail loop. Another way to do this would be to write some more intelligent code and create an event sink. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
No, you can make a statement as a fact or as an opinion. It is how you quantify the statement that sets the distinction. Starting a sentence as "I think that MVPs are unethical" is different than saying, "MVPs ARE unethical". Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery B

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Aaron Brasslett
It always passed the relay tests that I threw at the though. This was a simple environment and no other relaying was allowed. I suspect that the systems you have worked on had some other reason for relaying besides that ones you mentioned. Aaron -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [ma

Server-based autoresponder for exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Vivek Singh
Hi, We want to send an automatic response to the sender when an email is sent to the support mail ID of our company. I am interested in implementing a server based autoresponder for exchange 2000. So far, I've only seen products that run on Outlook. If you know of any server-based products that do

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Erik L. Vesneski
Hi, We moved over the Qmail after having to upgrade and secure our Sendmail servers after a few times. I have always been a believer in placing an MTA as a bridgehead in front of Exchange. On the other hand, I think its entirely possible to manage an Exchange server with 25 open to the Internet.

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Same thing with Imail. In its tightest configuration, one must authenticate in order to send mail from a POP3/SMTP client to an external address. No need to authenticate to send mail to someone on the same Imail server. Imail has other ways to control relay permissions but they are inferior (like

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
We have a sendmail box out in front of our exchange org purely for spam filtering. We are running PureMessage on Slackware 9. -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Ex

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
That's obviously absurd - Sendmail probably does process more mail than Exchange on similar hardware but that's pretty much all sendmail does. It doesn't provide the additional features that Exchange has out of the box particularly if you are an Active Directory shop. Besides, what difference does

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Tears freeze as they fall. A saint upon a high horse, Is tall but smells bad. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 17:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further fol

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
I thing Greg is saying that a POP3/SMTP user can't send mail OUTSIDE the organization without relaying (with authentication) turned on. Which is another good reason to NOT expose Exchange SMTP to the outside world. It is now apparently common knowledge among spammers that Exchange defaults to allo

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I won't have any need to cry. My relays are tight. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: R

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, I'll believe my own eyes. I've seen it happen. Don't come cryin' to me when you get nailed by the spammers. > Hey there always will be people that don't like POP3. > > I perfectly understand how Exchange works by the way. I also perfectly > understand SMTP. Believe me, most SMTP servers out

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Hey there always will be people that don't like POP3. I perfectly understand how Exchange works by the way. I also perfectly understand SMTP. Believe me, most SMTP servers out there (Exchange, iMAIL, SendMail, etc.) accept Anonymous connections. It does not meant that they relay mail for Anonymous

Re: XCH 2k3 public folders in mixed site

2003-12-12 Thread Chris H
you only see the TLF. You cannot expand to see any underneath. - Original Message - From: "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: RE: XCH 2k3 public folders in mixed site > Please explan wh

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
That is not funny Haiku is for more than that I think I need beer -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further fo

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further followups to this thread be done in Haiku! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Urg to kill...rising... "Dude", you apparently don't understand what I am talking about. Urg to kill...fading...rising!...fading... > Dude, I don't know who you are but you are wrong. > > All SMTP servers must accept anonymous connections, otherwise no one on = > the Internet would be able to se

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Yes, you were lucky. I have seen this exact scenario happen a couple times now. Fydora or whoever apparently did not understand this scenario but it is a fairly common scenario in small office environments with people on the road connecting their laptops to hotel networks and the like. Yes, OWA is

Duplicate (or more) meeting requests

2003-12-12 Thread Adams, Kevin C.
Greetings, We recently migrated to Outlook 2002. Some users are seeing a problem when they receive a meeting request, a tentative meeting is added to their calendar. Upon accepting the meeting a second entry is added for the same meeting. Has anyone else seen this problem? Thanks much! K _

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
:( I was the first one to mention it :( I am gonna go cry now :( -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Cool site. Thanks for posting, Don.

RE: Outlook XP -> Exch 2ksp3 POP3 Login problems

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I have seen this many times - Outlook XP freaks out and starts asking for password all of a sudden. Sometimes it seems to coincide with the company's change password policy (even if the specific user is set to never expire). Just change the user's password, log out, log back in and see if it helped

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Aaron Brasslett
It's been a while since I've supported POP3 clients on Exchange (5.5) but, as I recall, I had no issues with anonymous relaying. I believe that Exchange 5.5 allowed anonymous SMTP inbound connections (that is, connections for mail to be delivered locally) and would allow relaying by authenticated

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Dude, I don't know who you are but you are wrong. All SMTP servers must accept anonymous connections, otherwise no one on the Internet would be able to send mail to each other. Also Exchange perfectly understands the difference between inbound mail and a relay situation. When you restrict relay

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
While I am not sure that the "Greg" in this post was directed at me or whether this is some new form of abuse and sarcasm, it is pretty much irrelevant as I do have some things to say on this issue. The biggest problem that I have had with Exchange on the outside of the SMTP mail chain is anti-spa

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Now THAT's funny. > I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > Shut the fu*k up alrea

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, if you're big enough to look past my views on MVP, I think I can let it slide. Many thanks for your response. And, BTW, $1200 is 25% of the budget for this project, that's a big chunk of change. P.S. And because I have been heckled to death on this issue, I feel the need to clarify because I

RE: Outlook XP -> Exch 2ksp3 POP3 Login problems

2003-12-12 Thread Crista Murphy
Thanks, but there is no problem logging in to OWA, it's only Outlook POP3 that requests passwords and only this 1 client out of 5 who also log in using POP3. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Int

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Schwartz, Jim
How much mail can Exchange process? A lot. If you understand how an e-mail is handled with Exchange SMTP services, you can design the server (include memory, processor and disk layout) you can make it fly. I stress tested the IIS SMTP to see what I could get out of it. I rated the box at over 500

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Roger Seielstad
Um, no, it can't. But that's a whole different story. Microsoft has some hard num bers about the speed of the IIS SMTP component in comparison to sendmail. I think they're in a whitepaper someone on the MS site. That being said, I'm not a fan of exposing Exchange directly to the Internet. If for n

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Mellott, Bill
and I suppose..."Can't we all just get along..." is next and maybe Kumbyha It's the holiday seasonim thinking Seuss a classic... -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrati

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
> Greg, would you please help with this discussion on SendMailYour input will be > highly regardedThanks Tell him Postfix is more secure... :P > > Personally, I like to put another server at the edge for SMTP that is NOT > Exchange when I can... > > As far as who's faster at processing

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread John Parker
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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Aflac!! -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants to continue

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Clishe
Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants to continue this childish diatribe, take it offline. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating

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