RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
;>From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:20 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network >>> >>> >>>Yikes. I'm going to unsubscribe now, someone email me >&

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Barry Patterson
Back to? HEHE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Utegaard, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Personally, I think we should go back to OS/2! -Original

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Jennifer Baker
: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville wrote: > alright, a good ole' fashion, Novell is better then NT, NT is better > then Novell, battle. Linux! ;-) Anyone want to argue for the Macintosh? We c

Re: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Jim Utegaard
Personally, I think we should install to OS/2! It's da bomb baby! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Utegaard, Jim
Personally, I think we should go back to OS/2! -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville wrote

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Barry Patterson
HEHE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Yeah my boss is a die-hard Novell guy too. Too bad his boss is listening to me

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network It is all due to Poorly written NLMS by a vendor.. The core is pretty good. But NLM was so complicated to write in, no one did it properly... Kevinm WLKMMA

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Bauschek, Joe
Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network The new Macs are beautiful. MAC OS X is just too late for the market. It will always have its niche applications though. -Original Message

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Barry Patterson
Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network It is all due to Poorly written NLMS by a vendor.. The core is pretty good. But NLM was so complicated to write in, no one did it properly... Kevinm WLKMMA

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
You "can't" insult me! That's a pretty tough thing to do... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
I took the comment on sleepless nights as sarcastic. You should have too ahaha -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent: October 2, 2001 10:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Yes, how

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
7:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network It is all due to Poorly written NLMS by a vendor.. The core is pretty good. But NLM was so complicated to write in, no one did it properly... Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
You're goading me and I don't have the time to insult you and your OS!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: October 2, 2001 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network How so...

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Neil Hobson
Yes, how so Rocky? I was on Don's side! ;-) Neil -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 02 October 2001 15:48 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Exchange on a Netware network Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network How so... I&

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Kevin Miller
AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network How so... I'll be my W2K servers stay up longer than those POS Novell servers. The Novell boxes here seem to puke about daily due to some problem. What a crock! I remember when Novell used to claim stability. I don

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Stephen Mynhier
Less users = less complaints It's basic logic to me! -Original Message- From: Rocky Stefano To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/2/01 8:16 AM Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Don I use MS way more then Netware today but if you are misleading people by telling them that th

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Now that was funny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent:

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
Now that was funny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent: October 2, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network >>Tis OK, in a couple of months I will be doing a full scale mig

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
: Exchange on a Netware network On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville wrote: > alright, a good ole' fashion, Novell is better then NT, NT is better then > Novell, battle. Linux! ;-) Anyone want to argue for the Macintosh? We could get a full-scale holy war

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
Tastes great! No! Less filling!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network alright, a good ole

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Neil Hobson
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 02 October 2001 15:15 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Exchange on a Netware network Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I love opening "cans of worms"! Now granted, I've only got back into working with Novell at my latest gig

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
nge Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I love opening "cans of worms"! Now granted, I've only got back into working with Novell at my latest gig and that's been for almost 3 months now. However, I can tell you in my short lived experience... It SUC

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
nge Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I love opening "cans of worms"! Now granted, I've only got back into working with Novell at my latest gig and that's been for almost 3 months now. However, I can tell you in my short lived experience... It SUCKS and b

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread MS Exchange Mailing List
List Conversation: Exchange on a Netware network Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville wrote: > alright, a good ole' fashion, Novell is better then NT, NT is better then > Novell, battle. Linux! ;-) Anyone want

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
ration from anything related to Novell to W2K, ADS, and E2K. That should solve any administration and functionality issues I have. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:54 AM To: Exchange Discussion

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
gt;>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network >>> >>> >>> >>>Don you love opening cans of worms eh? Scalability. Please >>>NDS out scales AD >>>anytime, anywhere. That's why people like CNN

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I think NWAdmin SUCKS! I can do way more with AD and the MMC. It isn't about what I'm used to because I'm used to both, I just happen to like one better than the other. Not to mention, the scalabili

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Don Ely
TED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Don I use MS way more then Netware today but if you are misleading people by telling them that the mmc and AD plugins are easier to use then nwadmin or conso

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Bob Sadler
no [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Don I use MS way more then Netware today but if you are misleading people by telling them that the mmc and AD plugins are easier to use then nwadmin or consol

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
Sent: October 2, 2001 12:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network One issue that I am aware of is that ADS and NDS do not mix so I would imagine that would complicate things. My company is running NDS as well, but I'm fixing to migrate all the CRAP to W2K

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-02 Thread Rocky Stefano
Behalf Of Ron Jameson Sent: October 2, 2001 12:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Sorry about the brain burn on the Novell topic. Mine is smoking now too. Trying to build a case for recommending them into MS territory but it is hard; being that the price of the

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Don Ely
ns Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Stay with GroupWise 6 and Zenworks not Managewise. Managewise functionality was rolled into Zenworks anyways. GroupWise integrates directly with NDS the way Exchange does with W2K. If they have Netware servers they should stick with GW -Origin

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Leeann McCallum
riginal Message- From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 4:25 p.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Sorry about the brain burn on the Novell topic. Mine is smoking now too. Trying to build a case for recommending them in

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Ron Jameson
. It is mainly consulting time for deployment and ease of administering. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 11:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network You guys are

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Kevin Miller
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leeann McCallum Sent: October 1, 2001 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Zen 3 certainly does, Zen 2 does as well but we found it wasn't as reliable as 3. -Original Message- From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Rocky Stefano
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leeann McCallum Sent: October 1, 2001 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Zen 3 certainly does, Zen 2 does as well but we found it wasn't as reliable as 3. -Original Message- From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Leeann McCallum
: Exchange on a Netware network Stay with GroupWise 6 and Zenworks not Managewise. Managewise functionality was rolled into Zenworks anyways. GroupWise integrates directly with NDS the way Exchange does with W2K. If they have Netware servers they should stick with GW -Original Message- From

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Leeann McCallum
Zen 3 certainly does, Zen 2 does as well but we found it wasn't as reliable as 3. -Original Message- From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 1:48 p.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network With sticking to GW &

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Ron Jameson
ments but have not done a GW without consultants on contract. I am bidding on this particular project. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Rocky Stefano
Stay with GroupWise 6 and Zenworks not Managewise. Managewise functionality was rolled into Zenworks anyways. GroupWise integrates directly with NDS the way Exchange does with W2K. If they have Netware servers they should stick with GW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: Exchange on a Netware network

2001-10-01 Thread Leeann McCallum
We run Exchange 5.5 in a Netware 5 environment and there haven't really been any issues other than password changing. We did look at Groupwise a few years back, but at that point the client interface for GW provided too much of a learning curve for our users who were already using the MS Client f