RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-18 Thread Louis Joyce
Don't forget that the dumpsteralways on feature enables items to be recovered that haven't touched the 'deleted items folder'. Even if you turn it off; users can still retrieve deleted items that have been cleared from the deleted items folder. That's by design. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Data Supp

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Schlarb, Henry
ns Subject: RE: If I delete an email is it really gone? Thank you everyone. Jeff Fantin SRP - Office Software Support Phone: 602-236-3547 RightFAX: 602-681-2773 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:19 PM To: Exchange D

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread jvfantin
Thank you everyone. Jeff Fantin SRP - Office Software Support Phone: 602-236-3547 RightFAX: 602-681-2773 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: If I delete an email is it really

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread William Lefkovics
I didn't see in the conversation, and I know you said backup later, but their is the option on the server to not fully delete messages until backed up. In other words, even if you delete the message, empty deleted items, and empty deleted item retention, the message is still retained until it m

Re: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Daniel Chenault
The allocated space within the EDB file is marked available for overwrite, just as when you delete a file off a hard drive. So yes, the data is still there but all pointers to it have been removed. Given the dynamic nature of Exchange's database technology it'll probably be overwritten fairly quic

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Woodrick, Ed
You are not going to be able to realize your quest. First, don't turn off the dumpster, it saves butts many more times than it burns them. A) As our folks at Enron have found out, deleting a message is a long way from destroying it. Once a message has been created, just assume that it's there

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Bolser_Scott
Since it's Friday. If a tree falls in a forest... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: If I delete an email is it really gone? Exchange 5.5 SP4, 10 Exchange servers, 1 site Outl

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Andy David
Of course, knowing that everything I delete is permanently gone I will: 1. Never Delete (Ok, Mailbox Manager) 2. Forward Everything to an external account to save (Ok, Block replies to the Internet) 3. Use a pst (Gotcha!) 4. Print it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Akerlund, Scott
Now there is a loaded question. The answer truly is it depends. The message is (to my understanding) not really deleted and hence gone until ALL pointers to that message in the IS are deleted. If the message exists in one inbox, outbox, sent items or folder stored on the mail system then techni

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Kevin Miller
For the most part it is gone, you might be able to recover it from a RAW dump of HD or memory. You also need to look at the log files as they house all of the data written to the store. What are you trying to accomplish. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Verio can Burn in hell, While Qwes

RE: If I delete an email is it really gone?

2002-03-15 Thread Chris Scharff
Where was it send from and to? I guess the message is as gone as if you deleted a file from your hard drive, generally less so. Chris Scharff - MCSE, Exchange MVP 512.652.4500 x244 Senior Sales Engineer