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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
All the ladies know me as "Buddy Love".
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Lis
No, it's "The Fabulous Bud-E-Luv". Check him out at:
www.budeluv.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
All the
urday, March 22, 2003 11:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Closing the loop, Buddy was of course in the "Herbie, the Love Bug"
movie.
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From: Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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do business with him.
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>>Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
>>Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
>>Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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>Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. van
>Ouwerkerk
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Stup
van
>Ouwerkerk
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
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>Just found out.. they don't like love
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>Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
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>_
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
_
List posting FAQ:
wrote:
Not only stupid disclaimers, but also stupid filters.
I wonder what triggered the filter
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List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/sea
Not only stupid disclaimers, but also stupid filters.
I wonder what triggered the filter, love or mushrooms :)
B.
At 22:57 21-03-2003 -0800, you wrote:
Guess they don't like the shitake mushrooms.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PST
Ed Crowley'
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Place = Exchange Discussions; ; ; Exchange Discussions
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Delivery Time = March 21, 2003 (Friday)
Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and
S***. Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that
is beyond me :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
-Ori
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stupid disclaimers
Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for
administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal
criminal law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess.
On 3/
Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for
administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal criminal
law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess.
On 3/19/03 9:43, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NEXTERNA E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> This tra
02.
Private is an option. ;-)
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waitin
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waiting for it to be in private?! :)
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 23:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Of course
Of course we do.
Besides which, I don't enjoy being publicly flogged. Agreeing with you is the best
way to avoid that.
Darcy
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid discla
See then, that's OK - we agree :)
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 17:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
anno
Excellnetconsider it stolen ...
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Sent to me by a co-worker:
DISCLAIMER:
This Email message does not reflect the thoughts or
welcome :)
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
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NTLY...
If something offends you, lighten up, get a life and move on.
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From: Tim Tullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I think the following disclaimer says it all:
DISCLAIMER:
Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Tullis
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
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I think the foll
12:35 PM
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Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
annoyance.
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless annoyance.
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Of course it is - what's to st
June 07, 2002 23:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
There is another reason for disclaimers that include things like "if you are
not the intended recipient". Forwarding. I questioned the head of our
legal department on the need for a disclaimer, and he
The idea of you constantly referring to hippa doesn't make me happy.
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 22:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't think it would hold up either I'm
If you mean "HIPAA", would you care to quote the parts about disclaimers?
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 20:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers
Only after we've dealt with all the list trolls.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 19:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing a
002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..
But to clarify.
Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a citation to item under
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't think it would hold up either I'm just doing what the security
director in charge of the hippa implementation wants.
The idea of posting to the
]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't remember seeing anything in HIPAA that requires a disclaimer.
(Although I did say in an earlier email, that we'd do it, too, because of
HIPAA.) Actually, we'll do it but encrypt any
Yes everything I write is protected, but then if you copy it, I disavow it
and its yours.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that to
43 PM
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We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002
Wickieup AZ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattle
e due diligence
part of HIPAA.
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
That used to happen out around Brothers, in Eastern Oregon. I think though
that they may have had to phase that out due to the PETA folks. Note, I
don't think there is a similar protective organization for lawyers...
-Original Message-
From: Christ
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
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I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake round up. Where they capture as many rattlesnakes and then
kill them. Couldn't we have something like t
Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange D
/circs/circ1.html
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spellin
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all la
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spell
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply
y, June 07, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..
But to clarify.
Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a ci
!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles
Carerros
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:28 AM
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I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:47 AM
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I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backu
I hereby claim or disclaim that I am stupid.
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Cr
x27;m me when it is convenient to be me, but I
never me if it isn't.
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one w
erros
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
If you get a lawyer out of the office and talking like a human being, (I
did this once) you get really interesting information.
Like one told me once that if you create a website with all &quo
I should probably butchering all of my massages too, so they be thinkink I
not have an IQ above 68 too?
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
If you get a lawyer
Exchange Discussions
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Hmmm. Maybe the SPAM-filter people have it all wrong, and what they
should really be doing is pattern-matching on variations of "this is not
an unsolicited e-mail"
Opting-In on some exciting offers for herbal viagra in Pittsburgh
Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Just like the disclaimer that comes on 50% of the Spam I get that says
that "this is not an unsolicited e-mail".
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Co
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Do you think her data was right?
I tend to think that the law of bailments applies to all e-mail and probably
trumps other legal arguments. I don't think you can become a bailee by
force of some
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Do you think her data was right?
I tend to think that the law of bailments applies to all e-mail and
probably trumps other legal arguments. I don'
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 16:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emaildisclaimers.com/
"There are several reasons why you might decide to add disclaimers to your
e-mails. The reasons can be categorized into two groups: legal and marketing
reasons.
1. Leg
Prezactly. I'm not going to agree to keep a message written on a postcard
confidential.
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From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
This is BS. If you are dealing
AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
This is BS. If you are dealing with confidential information, you treat
it as such. Unless encrypted, e-mail is transmitted over the Internet
in clear text. You don't mail confidential documents in transparent
envelopes, do yo
a competitor by accident see how fast your company
fires you, even if you had a disclaimer.
Serdar Soysal
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From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emai
Just my 2cents
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/apply.html
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: stupid disclaimers
I think I might just start blocking messages with
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Alright, alright. There. Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass
by adding personalmail in the body somewhere.
Search Google if you are that desperate for a case scenario to prove your point and/or
not.
I would try "e-mail disclaimer", "court case" and "American" :) as points of reference.
E.
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From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
S
: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I lost... They said it gives them a good foundation to any lawsuit.
Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications Inc.
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility
614.543.6405
[EMAIL PROTECTED
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emaildisclaimers.com/
"There are several reasons why you might decide to add disclaimers to your
e-mails. The reasons can be categorized into two groups: legal and marketing
reasons.
: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I'm still fighting the battle of "we don't need no stinkin' disclaimers." So
far, I've won.
BTW, has anybody ever heard if those d
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I'm still fighting the battle of "we don't need no stinkin' disclaimers."
So far, I've won.
BTW, has anybody ever heard if those disclaimers actually hold up in court?
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem M
chael
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Alright, alright. There. Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass
by adding personalmail in the body somewhere. Are you happy?
Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communica
edges?
;o)
Jim Blunt
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the li
ff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm apparently breaking the law now
by clarifyin
I used Exclaimer and configured it to exclude mail to this list from
getting
our disclaimer.
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
>
&g
Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
>
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.&#
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personalmail
-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
if it's a litmus test
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROT
Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this.
> Like it actually perfor
if it's a litmus test
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?
> ---
The printing does
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?
> -Ori
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?
> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
>
t; From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this. Like it
> actually performs some kind of function.
>
Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this. Like it
actually performs some kind of function.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: stupid disclaimers
I think I might
I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic disclaimers before
they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
disclaimer below.
> This message (including any attachments) contains
> confidential information intended for a specific individual
> and purpose, and
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