RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Because downloading software illegally is usually more frowned upon than simply using a piece of hardware outside of its artificially created limits. -Original Message- From: bounce-8673963-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8673963-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On B

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Sobey, Richard A wrote: > Because downloading software illegally is usually more > frowned upon than simply using a piece of hardware outside > of its artificially created limits. I can't resist pointing out that the limits on pay software are exactly as artifici

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
OK, so my reply to you: > I didnt say to pin it on anything. I said it can be done; which is true. I didnt say to do it or not to; only that its possible. I really dont know how I could have written a more neutral statement about it originally or in my reply to you. I dont think its fair to s

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
So let me pose an iPhone question. Compared to a BB, how does it physically hold up. I have guys here that just beat the living hell out of their phones and of course they are also the ones who want iPhones and the iPhone just looks too delicate for day to day usage by a lot of folks. The BB can

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Don Guyer
I've had every model since it was first released and have dropped them all numerous times, but only a few times screen side down. They all had cases on them protecting the sides and back (some had the film screen protectors). Never had an issue after dropping. Don Guyer Systems Engineer -

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Andrew Greene
The only issue I've ever had with either of my iPhones breaking is when I dropped my 3G from about 6 feet, glass down onto linoleum at which point the LCD cracked, but not the glass. It's taken a number of spills on the ground/pavement and I've only scratched the glass in one place. Then again,

OT - Friday funny

2009-10-02 Thread Campbell, Rob
oemailsfromcrazypeople.com ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Sam Cayze
"So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with physical damage" I have, but this guy breaks any phone he touches. Many of my friends have them, and they seem to hold up quite well. The problem is that At&t's excludes Assurion Insurance on the iPhone. (All other carri

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Ens
Another question - how do all the iphone lovers *feel *now that they know the security on their precious devices is crap and that Apple lied about the included encryption? On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Sam Cayze wrote: > "So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with

Re: OT - Friday funny

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
That tattoo ones is priceless! This is truly what the Internet has wrought. -- ME2 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Campbell, Rob < rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net> wrote: > o*emails*from*crazypeople*.com > > > > *

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Senter, John
You drop a iphone from the car roof and it is gone unless you have a really good case. I have dropped my BB from the top of the car a couple of times and it only put a nick on the case (no protective case on it) and the battery shot out but nothing broken. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblac

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread John Cook
I just replaced a Curve that was 2 plus years old and looked like she had been snowboarding on it but it still worked fine. My former nearly 3 year old 8800 was still working perfectly when I got my Bold to replace it, my ex has replaced her IPhone twice in that span, YMMV John W. Cook Systems A

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Definitely dont get an iPhone if you need durability. Unless you have a bulky case around it, you can expect these things to take damage *easily*. That entire top-surface is glass. That polished plastic and chrome - scratch magnets. You're spot-on thinking the iPhone is delicate. Any proper cas

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
They aren't covering issues for legitimately failed upgrades? Wow. Even Nikon took my $1300 camera for repair for free when I bricked it during a firmware upgrade. No accident insurance. Just good customer service for something that can inevitably go wrong. Where did you find out about this ref

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Disgusted. I very much dislike the fact I have to use it. -- ME2 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steve Ens wrote: > Another question - how do all the iphone lovers *feel *now that they know > the security on their precious devices is crap and that Apple lied about the > included encryption?

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
I personally have an iPhone and I can report that I dropped it while I was walking. It fell about 3 feet to the pavement, bounced end over end (as I stood horrified) and finally landed face down on the glass screen. I can report that the only damage was some dings to the edges (where it tumble

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
Source? Sounds like FUD to me. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPhone experience They aren't covering issues for legitimately failed upgrades? Wow.

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
Again, source? I feel just fine. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPhone experience Another question - how do all the iphone lovers feel now that they know the secur

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Sam Cayze
I hear about it in the news and forums, and it happened to 3 of my friends. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPhone experience They aren't covering iss

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Sam Cayze
"Again, source? I feel just fine." Just to recap a few articles that were referenced in this thread: "Hacker Says iPhone 3GS Encryption Is 'Useless' for Businesses" http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/iphone-encryption/ iPhone has been lying about it's compliance with security poli

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
You read those articles, right? You phrase your statement to indicate that Apple is actively misleading people ("lied") telling people that something is in place that isn't. The first article is a hacker saying he can work around the encryption and I assume he can. That doesn't indicate that

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: >> But playing language lawyer to try and dodge >> ownership of what you say -- that is bogus. > > I really dont know how I could have written a more neutral > statement about it originally or in my reply to you. Again: If that wasn't

Nesting query based distribution groups

2009-10-02 Thread Celone, Mike
Is it possible to nest a query based distribution group inside a universal group? We are using Exchange 2003 SP2 in a Windows 2003 Native forest. I thought I read somewhere in the past you could do it but can't figure it out now. Mike Celone Manager of Information Systems Radio Frequency Sy

Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Chipshead
Exchange 2003 SP 2. Outlook 2003. User sends meeting request to recipients. One accepts and responds and immediately gets a  Sys Admin undeliverable notice referencing a user who has not had an account on our network for 4-5 years and who is no longer listed anywhere in Active Directory as n

RE: Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Campbell, Rob
Check for orphan delegates. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Phantom recipient undeliverable Exchange 2003 SP 2. Outlook 2003. User sends meeting request to recipients. One accepts and respond

RE: Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Celone, Mike
Somebody has a delegate setup in their mailbox. Mike Celone Manager of Information Systems Radio Frequency Systems v. 203-630-3311 x1031 f. 203-634-2027 m. 203-537-2406 OnNet: 28971031 mike.cel...@rfsworld.com mailto:mike.cel...@rfsworld.com> From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailt

RE: Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Ralph Smith
We had that for a while - it was an orphan delegate as mentioned. It creeped out the sender because the unreachable user had passed away the year before. From: Celone, Mike [mailto:mike.cel...@rfsworld.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Ex

Re: Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Chipshead
Thanks Rob. Just stumbled across KB 909638. - Original Message - From: "Rob Campbell" To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 2:26:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: Phantom recipient undeliverable Check for orphan delegates. From: chipsh.

Re: Phantom recipient undeliverable

2009-10-02 Thread Orland, Kathleen
Delegate? - Original Message - From: chipsh...@comcast.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Phantom recipient undeliverable Exchange 2003 SP 2. Outlook 2003. User sends meeting request to recipients. One accepts and responds an

Exchange 2000 OWA Signature Block

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Szabo
Exchange 2000 fully patched WIN2K server, fully patched Is there a way to create a signature block for use in OWA 2000? I do not see one immediately apparent. -- \\Steve//

RE: Exchange 2000 OWA Signature Block

2009-10-02 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Only way I know if is an add on, like Messageware's plus pack. www.messageware.com From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2000 OWA Signature Block Exchange 2000 fully patch

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Sam Cayze
"I am not carrying around credit card information on my phone. For better or worse, there isn't a whole lot of personal information on the phone that people couldn't dig up other ways anyway." Nobody cares about that data anyway. Totally besides the point. Corporate data leaks, corporate espi

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
I was responding to "how do all the iphone lovers feel now" question you asked. There is no context in that question about corporations or enterprise readiness. I love my iPhone, so I felt qualified to answer the question that was posed. I definitely understand how intention doesn't always di

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Ens
Hi Bill I agree that the iphone is a great tool, but not a great tool for the enterprise...yet. It may get there. Apple needs to be more forthright however with it's declarations of security, and call a spade a spade. Those are the things that bug me the most about Apple. Their advertising is c

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Well said. As much as I dont like it for business, I do love this thing. I recently mounted and hard-wired audio/charging into my car, and I couldnt be happier with it (since its Jailbroken *snicker*). I do wish they would expidite more corporate features. But with the MobileMe service push, I

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Mayo, Bill
That goes both ways. Just listen to the dismissive way in which Ballmer and Michael Dell have referred to Apple, if nothing else. Ballmer dismissed the iPhone out of hand prior to it being released, only to have to backtrack later. Likewise, he refers to Apple's percentages (software sales, S

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Ens
Yes I realize it goes both ways...why can't we just all get along?! On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Mayo, Bill wrote: > That goes both ways. Just listen to the dismissive way in which Ballmer > and Michael Dell have referred to Apple, if nothing else. Ballmer dismissed > the iPhone out of han

RE: Non-Outlook Exchange Clients

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Hart
I'm moving a few distribution lists from "normal" distribution lists to dynamic distribution lists. Everything seems to be working OK, but they aren't showing up in the Global Address List. I've been through the steps outlined at http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2007/01/11/432158.aspx and I've

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Don Andrews
Beer day? - I can DO that! From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPhone experience Hi Bill I agree that the iphone is a great tool, but not a great tool for the enter

Re: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Steve Ens wrote: > Their advertising is cute, > however it is more like a smear campaign then actually promoting their > product. Yah, and I've discovered that after drinking beer, I'm not surrounded by hot women and fast cars, either! What gives!?! ;-) > Woul

Re: Non-Outlook Exchange Clients

2009-10-02 Thread Kat Collins
The GAL is downloaded once per day, I believe, and if they show up in All Groups, they should show up in a later update of the GAL. All Users, All Groups, etc is a dynamic lookup, where the GAL is a cached copy. Others more knowledgeable - please update this or correct me if wrong... Kat On Fri

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread Campbell, Rob
If the worst that can be said about them is that they pay more attention to their software than to their advertising, I can live with that. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iP

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread William Lefkovics
I have the very same experience with the Blackberry Storm. I since bought a rubber sleeve for it. They have similar things for the iPhone of course, such as http://5thirtyone.com/archives/839. Maybe they will replace the screen if broken. http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/06/apple-stores-will-rep

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread William Lefkovics
What an interesting thread. I heard that the number #1 mobile device connecting to Microsoft’s Exchange Servers is the iPhone. Rumours, surely. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPho

RE: iPhone experience

2009-10-02 Thread William Lefkovics
It's iPhone owners you have to worry about. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Man-Allegedly-Shows-Gun-After-iPhone-Tr ouble/m1SZuRQevUGyjuQOV3aqMA.cspx :) -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:02 PM To: MS-