Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-11 Thread Wolfgang Breyha via Exim-users
> ... and here is the EXIM EXPLOIT : > https://github.com/RUB-NDS/alpaca-code/blob/master/exploits/smtp/02-exim.md That's interesting because I expected a 503 no greeting received yet if a throw a "mail from:..." to Exim before EHLO/HELO. But in the case the address given is invalid it is indeed

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-11 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 09.06.21 um 22:03 schrieb Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users: |smtp_max_synprot_errors|Use: main|Type: integer|Default: 3| A small follow-up on my change of this config on a -> very low traffic <- mail-server in less than 18h after activation: 2021-06-10 17:09:54 SMTP call from [134.122

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-11 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 11/06/2021 07:58, Cyborg via Exim-users wrote: gnutls, libre and opensslĀ  also need time to offer api functions GnuTLS and OpenSSL support ALPN already, in current versions. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## List details at https://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http:

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-11 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 11.06.21 um 00:37 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: On 10/06/2021 13:52, Cyborg via Exim-users wrote: After reading the paper a bit closer, rejecting the entire connection when a HTTP headerline is detected, seems to be only valid option here, as long as ALPN isn't implemented widely.

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-10 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 10/06/2021 13:52, Cyborg via Exim-users wrote: After reading the paper a bit closer, rejecting the entire connection when a HTTP headerline is detected, seems to be only valid option here, as long as ALPN isn't implemented widely. Do we need ACL-level visibilty of a synprot-rejected line?

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-10 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 10.06.21 um 11:18 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: It's beyond most script-kiddies, at least. Email has no current standard for using ALPN; do we need one? That is suggested as mitigation for this attack. Exim does support SNI, which is also suggested (but only used if explicitly config

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-10 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 09/06/2021 22:10, Cyborg via Exim-users wrote: I'm trying to get more infos about that attack vector from the german universities which found it, and will make some tests if possible, so we see what we actually have to defend against. "The attacks, however, hinge on the prerequisite that t

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-09 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 09.06.21 um 22:03 schrieb Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users: Cyborg via Exim-users (Mi 09 Jun 2021 21:13:43 CEST): Don#t get me wrong, exim is at the top of this "best of the worse" list, because it stops after 3 retriesm but other server like proftpd have already reacted to this by impleme

Re: [exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-09 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Cyborg via Exim-users (Mi 09 Jun 2021 21:13:43 CEST): > Don#t get me wrong, exim is at the top of this "best of the worse" list, > because it stops after 3 retriesm but other server like proftpd have already > reacted to this by implementing countermeasures. This can also be seen in > the mentione

[exim] Exim (aoom) named in context of new TLS cross-protocol attack

2021-06-09 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Context: https://thehackernews.com/2021/06/new-tls-attack-lets-attackers-launch.html? See figure 1 right column line #2 -- A few weeks ago, I suggested to take care of these freaks, that redirect HTTP requests to SMTP Ports, spamming logs and wasting valueable hamstertime. As it look