Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:16:26 -0800, "Fred Viles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As explained already, there won't be any non-encrypted authentication >attempts to reject. Which is a feature, since with AUTH PLAIN, the credentials have already been transmitted unencrypted when the auth attempt is rej

Spam labelling (Was Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only)

2006-02-06 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 11:39 +, Tony Finch wrote: > On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Jeremy Harris wrote: > > > > I note with interest that sesame's spam-labelling > > leaves the original Subject: line in place, > > adding a new one later in the headers - and that > > Thunderbird displays the later one. > >

Re: Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-06 Thread Tony Finch
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Jeremy Harris wrote: > > I note with interest that sesame's spam-labelling > leaves the original Subject: line in place, > adding a new one later in the headers - and that > Thunderbird displays the later one. I believe that whatever spam labelling you are seeing isn't being do

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JH" == Jakob Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JH> I'd just like to know what made sesame think my message is JH> spam. Nigel? Looks like whatever version of spamassassin is running on sesame.csx.cam.ac.uk doesn't properly parse the IPv6 addresses out of the intervening Received: headers

Re: Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Jeremy Harris wrote: > Jakob Hirsch wrote: (some nonspam) oh, thanks, didn't notice that (usually, I don't read my own messages :) I'd just like to know what made sesame think my message is spam. Nigel? -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Fred Viles
On 4 Feb 2006 at 12:03, Marco wrote about "Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only": |... | Can I send a custom SMTP error (ex. You must use an encrypted | session!!), when exim4 reject an non-encrypted authentication session? As explained already, there won't be any non-encrypted

Re: Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Harris
Jakob Hirsch wrote: (some nonspam) I note with interest that sesame's spam-labelling leaves the original Subject: line in place, adding a new one later in the headers - and that Thunderbird displays the later one. I'll put money on not all MUAs behaving the same way. - Jeremy -- ## List detail

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Alan J. Flavell
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Marc Sherman wrote: > Alan's error will never get sent, because if a client attempts to > authenticate when AUTH is not advertised, Exim detects that as a > protocol error, and it never gets to the ACL: Thanks - I was thinking that might be the case, after reading Jakob Hirsc

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Marc Sherman
Marco wrote: > > I look this message only on my log. Can Exim send an SMTP error (ex. > code 5xx Encryption required for authenticated sending) > to client? No, Marco, as others have already explained to you. SMTP clients will not attempt to authenticate if AUTH is not advertised, and a properl

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Marco
Alan J. Flavell ha scritto: On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Marco wrote: Can I send a custom SMTP error (ex. You must use an encrypted session!!), when exim4 reject an non-encrypted authentication session? Do you mean something like this? acl_smtp_auth = check_security [...]

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Alan J. Flavell
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Marco wrote: > Can I send a custom SMTP error (ex. You must use an encrypted > session!!), when exim4 reject an non-encrypted authentication > session? Do you mean something like this? acl_smtp_auth = check_security [...] ### # AC

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Marco wrote: > Can I send a custom SMTP error (ex. You must use an encrypted > session!!), when exim4 reject an non-encrypted authentication session? No. If AUTH was not advertised, Exim will say something like "AUTH not advertised". But proper smtp clients will not use AUTH unless it was adverti

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2006-02-04 Thread Marco
Dennis Davis ha scritto: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Warren Howard wrote: From: Warren Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: exim-users@exim.org Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:13:46 +0530 Subject: [exim] AUTH over TLS only Is there a way in Exim to setup matching functionality to Postfix's "smtpd_tls_auth_only

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:46:42 + (GMT), Philip Hazel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Marc Haber wrote: It should prevent a well-behaved client from authenticating since it does only advertise AUTH over encrypted connections. Of course, a very broken client w

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Dennis Davis wrote: > Use auth_advertise_hosts. From the spec: > > If you want to advertise the availability of AUTH only when the > connection is encrypted using TLS, you can make use of the fact that > the value of this option is expanded, with a setting like this: > > auth_adverti

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 1 Dec 2005, at 15:00, Philip Hazel wrote: Probably. The depth of brokenness of some MUAs has to be seen to be believed. I was recently asked for a workaround for a client that was using tls-on-connect, then sending HELO (not EHLO), and then trying to do AUTH. An Oracle application (I think

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Philip Hazel
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > Is there a MUA so broken that it tries to authenticate without the > server having advertised AUTH? Probably. The depth of brokenness of some MUAs has to be seen to be believed. I was recently asked for a workaround for a client that was using tls-on-con

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:46:42 + (GMT), Philip Hazel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Marc Haber wrote: >> It should prevent a well-behaved client from authenticating since it >> does only advertise AUTH over encrypted connections. Of course, a very >> broken client who insists to a

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:55:04AM -0600, Mark Nipper wrote: > Now, someone much more knowledgeable about such things > than me will have to say whether that actually prevents a client > from ignoring exim and attempting to authenticate anyway without > TLS. But I don't think there is much

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Philip Hazel
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > It should prevent a well-behaved client from authenticating since it > does only advertise AUTH over encrypted connections. Of course, a very > broken client who insists to authenticate even to a server that > doesn't advertise AUTH is not prevented. It's n

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 05:55:04 -0600, Mark Nipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >tls_advertise_hosts = * >auth_advertise_hosts = ${if eq{$tls_cipher}{}{}{*}} > >The second directive in particular is what does it. > >Now, someone much more knowledgeable about such things >than me will have to say

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Warren Howard
On 12/01/2005 05:29 PM, Dennis Davis wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Warren Howard wrote: From: Warren Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: exim-users@exim.org Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:13:46 +0530 Subject: [exim] AUTH over TLS only Is there a way in Exim to setup matching functionality to Postfix's "smt

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Dennis Davis
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Warren Howard wrote: > From: Warren Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: exim-users@exim.org > Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:13:46 +0530 > Subject: [exim] AUTH over TLS only > > Is there a way in Exim to setup matching functionality to > Postfix's "smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes" option?

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Nipper
On 01 Dec 2005, Warren Howard wrote: > Is there a way in Exim to setup matching functionality to Postfix's > "smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes" option? I've read through > http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_38.html#IX2419 and the > closest matching option I can find is "hosts_require_tls

Re: [exim] AUTH over TLS only

2005-12-01 Thread Stephen Gran
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:13:46PM +0530, Warren Howard said: > Hi, > > Is there a way in Exim to setup matching functionality to Postfix's > "smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes" option? I've read through > http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_38.html#IX2419 and the > closest matching optio