Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Lee Willis
Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you expect from upgrade? It'd be nice to "upgrade in a window" like with Helix. Ie run a nice little app which checks your systems tells you which apps can be upgraded safely, lets you pick which ones to upgrade and goes and does it. It should

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Muzza
Unfortunately Helix doesn't check your system first, it just presents you with a list of upgrades that are available and it's up to you to remember what you have already got. They do 'date' them though so that's not too difficult. But yeah, that would be a very nice feature. Muzza. On

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Anton Graham
Submitted 07-Jun-00 by Muzza: Unfortunately Helix doesn't check your system first, it just presents you with a list of upgrades that are available and it's up to you to remember what you have already got. They do 'date' them though so that's not too difficult. But yeah, that would be a very

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Muzza
My apologies it does just that - my error was that I had downloaded the tarballs and did the old 'rpm -bt xxx.tar.gz' on them. For some reason, probably naming conventions, the update tool didn't 'see' them. Oh boy, it's been a long week! Muzza. On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, Anton Graham

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread george r.
On 7 Jun 2000, at 10:56, Lee Willis wrote: Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you expect from upgrade? It'd be nice to "upgrade in a window" like with Helix. Ie run a nice little app which checks your systems tells you which apps can be upgraded safely, lets you pick which

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread laurent . duperval
On 7 Jun, Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 07-Jun-00 by Muzza: Unfortunately Helix doesn't check your system first, it just presents you with a list of upgrades that are available and it's up to you to remember what you have already got. They do 'date' them though so that's not too

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-06 Thread Pj
I like Jay's suggestion. New users like myself with no *nix experience don't know how to deal with broken, or disfunctional apps. If I had more experience I would want a choice. The problem as I see it is this..if Mandrake gives us what we all want we'll have a 500-pound monster that still won't

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-06 Thread Civileme
Jay Summet wrote: Suggest you default to CONSERVATIVE but allow the user (perhaps in EXPERT mode?) to chose from the others. Jay Summet 1) CONSERVATIVE: just freshen those packages which can be freshened and leave the rest of the system as it is The default setting 2) FORCED:

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-06 Thread Ron Stodden
Denis HAVLIK wrote: What do you expect from upgrade? I am quite sure there are other ways to do upgrade, and that opinions on "what is the best upgrade" will be wildly different. So, what do you think? What to do with the /etc directory is a major problem. The problem is what to do

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am a user who found upgrades from Win95 to Win98 worked out about 1 situation in 7, so I would not fault anyone who found upgrading something that was 6 to 10 times as sophisticated and complicated to be an enormous task. Getting from RH6.0 to L-M7.1 is an

[expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-05 Thread Denis HAVLIK
What do you expect from upgrade? cu Denis -- One topic from a dark side .-) Upgrading a Linux-Mandrake system has been our nightmare for quite some time. François has worked a lot on this for 7.1, and at the end I was actually able to upgrade from RH 6.0

Re: [expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)

2000-06-05 Thread Jay Summet
Suggest you default to CONSERVATIVE but allow the user (perhaps in EXPERT mode?) to chose from the others. Jay Summet 1) CONSERVATIVE: just freshen those packages which can be freshened and leave the rest of the system as it is 2) FORCED: Force instalation of a new "core" system, even if