On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, you wrote:
> At 07:47  27/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >> > And where are the answers? ;-) Oh, yeah, I know, in the archives
> >> > <sigh>. 
> If the answers are here, why not make #1 and #2
> 
> 
> #1: Search the archives first before posting
> 
> #2: Archives located at http://www.whereever.they.are.hosted.at/
> 
> This cuts out 4 questions easy... I know we wanna make Linux more 'user
> friendly', but if people are being handed all their answers on a platter,
> they won't learn to search or use external resources... 

Hum, but don't we run into a chicken-egg problem here? If they don't
use external resources will they honor this notice at all? I mean,
it's all there either at linux-mandrake.com or mandrakeuser.org. That
'lynx' question is linked right from the frontpage of MUO. The
archives are linked from the same page as the subscribe addresses for
the mailing list. 
Therefore my policy is: help them with initial trouble and keep
telling them how to help themselves, hoping they will grep it some
time. This is the basic principle MUO is based upon.

The principle of self-help is something you have to learn, since MS
is following quite the opposite path.

> *turns list anti-M$ flame off* 
> 
> Just look how hard it is to get anything from the M$ website for any of
> your problems, yet they make huge amounts of dough and no one cares 

Yep. That's the secret of our success. It wouldn't work if we'd tell
them: 'Go, help yourself'. I admit it is tedious sometimes, but this
is a revolution: we are rolling back 15 years of dumbing down people.
We have to do this step by step.

> *turns anti-M$ flame back on*
> 
> >From the time I first used my first *NIX till now I always search archives
> first/'the web' and then ask the lists.... how hard can it be for anyone else

Sure that is an aplaudable attitude, but as someone who has grown up
with DOS and Windows, I can tell you, that this isn't obvious for
renegats.

> 
> Regards
> 
> Geoff Croxson
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Regards

tom

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