Dear Civil Me: I was talking about changing permission on sher's .Xauthority, NOT root's. that is, logging into KDE, I went into the File Manager, cd'd into /home/sher, then tried to change the user and group permissions on /home/sher/.Xauthority. But when I logged out of KDE, it remained root. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net