I've taken the liberty of setting up the Linux Mandrake Security Announcements and Discussion mailing list as was being discussed in the expert mailing list. The mailing list is open to everyone and is for announcements of security issues relating to Mandrake, discussion of security on a Mandrake system, Q&A, security tools, firewalls, cryptography, and so forth. To subscribe, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] A little "homepage" for the mailing list is available at www.freezer-burn.org/lists/mdk-security.php3 and an online archive is available at www.freezer-burn.org/mdk-security/index.php3. Enjoy! I hope this mailing list will help both the developers and users of Linux Mandrake to provide the most secure Linux distribution available! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org