Totally off topic. But has anyone played with the Netpliance units yet? http://www.netpliance.com It runs QNX on 32 MB ram, 16 MB flash, V90 modem, keyboard, 10" color 800x600 LCD display and a $99 price tag. I ordered one today to see what makes it tick. QNX is not Unix or Linux, but it is structured like it. It runs on 8088/8086 type chips, like DOS. But the file system is very familiar to us Linuxers. I fully intend to dissect mine and see how that thing is put together, in particular how the Flash chip is programmed and how does the thing boot up etc. We ought to send one of these boxes to that Johnson kid or whoever he was that broke the DVD Coding. This Netpliance is worth hacking into. Imagine loading a slimmed down Mandrake into it. Hehehe.... I suspect that the Netpliance is one of those things like Juno or FreeServ that gives you cheap computing and access but plagues you with Commercials and Ads. This is a challenge for all of us to see if we can reprogram the damn thing -- or build a phone line IP filter for it or something. -- Ramon Gandia ============= Sysadmin ============== Nook Net http://www.nook.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 285 West First Avenue tel. 907-443-7575 P.O. Box 970 fax. 907-443-2487 Nome, Alaska 99762-0970 ==== Alaska Toll Free. 888-443-7525