Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 18:31, Jack Coates wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:57, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 08:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 07:53, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > > There's an interesting article at > > > > > > > > > > http://www-106.ibm.com/de

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:57, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 08:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 07:53, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > There's an interesting article at > > > > > > > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFast

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 14:33, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Samstag, 20. September 2003 22:37 schrieb Eric Huff: > > > If you notice X starts up > > > even though the entire init process is not complete and in fact > > > you can actually start logging in before the init is finished. > > > > I have not

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 20. September 2003 22:37 schrieb Eric Huff: > > If you notice X starts up > > even though the entire init process is not complete and in fact > > you can actually start logging in before the init is finished. > > I have noticed that. I wish they would do more multitasking like > that.

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Eric Huff
> If you notice X starts up > even though the entire init process is not complete and in fact > you can actually start logging in before the init is finished. I have noticed that. I wish they would do more multitasking like that. What i didn't realize was that a lot of the startup programs them

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:04, Eric Huff wrote: > > not really... first, we must define what busy is :-) I have an > > impatient daughter standing at my elbow > > speaking of busy... > > > Processes aren't always bottlenecked by CPU, and the well behaved > > ones will let go of CPU when they're wai

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 08:53, Jack Coates wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 07:53, Eric Huff wrote: > > > There's an interesting article at > > > > > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster > > > > That is an interesting article. > > The /. discuss

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 07:53, Eric Huff wrote: > > There's an interesting article at > > > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster > > That is an interesting article. > > So, if paralelling speeds things up, doesn't that mean that some > process

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Eric Huff
> not really... first, we must define what busy is :-) I have an > impatient daughter standing at my elbow speaking of busy... > Processes aren't always bottlenecked by CPU, and the well behaved > ones will let go of CPU when they're waiting on something else. > Say that it's a database startup--

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 09:04, Eric Huff wrote: > > > Paralleling obviously works great for human interaction (one web > > > page loading while reading another). But if the processes are using > > > up all the cpu, paralleling shouldn't help unless there is a piece > > > of hardware/peripheral it's

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Eric Huff
> > Paralleling obviously works great for human interaction (one web > > page loading while reading another). But if the processes are using > > up all the cpu, paralleling shouldn't help unless there is a piece > > of hardware/peripheral it's waiting for, right? > > > > once the kernel's up, yo

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 07:53, Eric Huff wrote: > > There's an interesting article at > > > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster > > That is an interesting article. The /. discussion also pointed to a more sophisticated setup in Gentoo... in b

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-20 Thread Eric Huff
> There's an interesting article at > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster That is an interesting article. So, if paralelling speeds things up, doesn't that mean that some processes are waiting for hardware? Or do intel chips actually paral

Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 23:42, Philip Webb wrote: > There's an interesting article at > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster Phillip, I've been reading it.. I have full intention of digging into this as soon as my head is above water. NEA

[expert] boot-time speed-up

2003-09-19 Thread Philip Webb
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