Hi, Sorry for the junk in the previous post. I had a mailer daemon problem and inserted it into pine which I found doesn't like new lines. Here are the date from trying kdvi Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display "pokie.tcimet.net:12.0". QObject::connect: No such slot KViewPart::slotSave() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'file_save_as') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'kviewerpart') TIA, -sen