At one time I knew the answer to this question but not anymore. When doing a rpm -ivh or -Uvh with or without --nodeps or --force I occasionally get the ; "directory not empty, cannot remove " messages. Ususally it doesn't appear to have any effect on things and I have also tried rm -rf the complaining directory and re-installing the new rpm. Same thing, it doesn't really seem to make any difference as to the functionality of the program in question. Just would like to be reminded what is happening and if anything negative COULD happen !!! ??? Thanks William Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak