Okay, I give up. I can ftp/telnet out, and I can ftp in but I can't telnet in. /etc/hosts.allow is all:all, and inetd is running. The outside machine tells me it's connecting, and the escape character (stupid info), and then tells me that it's "Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" Obviously I don't have something configured right, but I can't see it. So what the **** am I missing? Also there was a logfile for the boot process which is/was maintained in some filename that was intuitively obvious to someone, but which I have conveniently forgotten. Anybody remember it? Eric