[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate receiving the references to Muktananda quotes. It > exactly explains the grace I received. Muktananda often speaks of a process called "Shaktipat" which is described as "transmission of spiritual pow

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Sunday - True Teacher

2005-06-04 Thread bert . carson
Title: Template June 05, 2005 - True Teacher  Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him.  That one is your father." Gosp

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread eloigne24
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate receiving the references to Muktananda quotes. It > exactly explains the grace I received. > I thought your description of receiving transformation in this way from MMY was beautiful - thank you. My

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Especially as it put his ding song to sleep. > You know what they say, "you can't have your cake and eat it too". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Peter, > > If I were a smug eletist, etc. as some imply on this forum, > > I would write under my real name. I simply gave

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 7:39 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > And I would suggest the same questions to Rick Archer vis a vis his > relationship with Amma, the person who I assume is his master? > Would all the benefit and the teachings of Amma be negated if you > were to learn negative and nasty

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Peter, > If I were a smug eletist, etc. as some imply on this forum, > I would write under my real name. I simply gave an example > of my experience with MMY transforming my physiology into > celibacy to illus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
So I'll say it one more time. I called you smug over your comment to me about the Raja Techniques. Now, I'm done. As for the don't need to have sex thing, well, if your Vedic wife is ok with that then she may as well be a statue, but that's certainly not my call. Have a great life. Ciao.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread guybanner2002
Thanks Peter, If I were a smug eletist, etc. as some imply on this forum, I would write under my real name. I simply gave an example of my experience with MMY transforming my physiology into celibacy to illustrate that if he can do this for me, how could he not be celibate himself. But, people

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah, I didn't detect any either. I don't know what > others are talking about. What's your take, then, on his last sentence? "Anyone who cannot recognize that status and mocks him is a fool with the consciousn

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread guybanner2002
Perhaps to some people it appears out of line; but coming from a position that after all that Maharishi has done for me and the world, I just could no longer stand all the Maharishi bashing taking place. Maharishi has stated, "I am as close to you as you want me to be." I chose to take him up o

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread guybanner2002
I am married to a wonderful, beautiful Vedic wife who I adore, and with whom I have a very loving relationship. And I like women, and enjoy being in the company of the female vibration. I just don't require to have sex with any of them. So, I found that transcending the sex drive has enabled me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "guybanner2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > I have been meditating for 37 yrs (TM instructor > for nearly as long) > > and I have been on MMY's staff for 5 years. The > above is just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > My guess is that you didn't pick up on the smugness or elitism > because you are likely also immersed in the same religious culture of > "techniquianity" in which spirituality is defined by the ability to > cultivate and perform subtle mind-body p

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > MUM is not a dangerous place. The incident was a trag

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread guybanner2002
I appreciate receiving the references to Muktananda quotes. It exactly explains the grace I received. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for this post, Guy, I found it incredible and inspiring > reading. > > I would point out your use of

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Boy, we needed this post. It doesn't resolve anything of > > course, but it is a sorely needed perspective. And judgi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
My guess is that you didn't pick up on the smugness or elitismbecause you are likely also immersed in the same religious culture of"techniquianity" in which spirituality is defined by the ability tocultivate and perform subtle mind-body parlor tricks. From my own experience, blowing spooge

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Boy, we needed this post. It doesn't resolve anything of > > course, but it is a sorely needed perspective. And judgin

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy, we needed this post. It doesn't resolve anything of > course, but it is a sorely needed perspective. And judging > from some of the defensive comments, I would say you are > pushing some people's sensi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
  - Original Message - From: lurkernomore20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:snipI have been m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Especially as it put his ding song to sleep.   - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Great feature "One Percent for Peace" in Yoga International

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
  - Original Message - From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Great feature "One Percent for Peace" in Yoga International So now we see even more of the grand plan:   ---Good Freudian slip. More lik

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Not that this sort of conjecture matters, but at least it wasn't a Columbine.     - Original Message - From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > I have been meditating for 37 yrs (TM instructor for nearly as long) > > and I have been on MMY's staff fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for this post, Guy, I found it incredible and inspiring > reading. > > I would point out your use of and reference to MMY as a "master" > and, in particular, YOUR master. This is great and I am happy for

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rick, I appreciate your comments... > My personal philosophy about rumors and inuendos is to only believe > that which I personally experience and know of first hand. (On > several ocassions I have heard things c

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread shempmcgurk
Thank you for this post, Guy, I found it incredible and inspiring reading. I would point out your use of and reference to MMY as a "master" and, in particular, YOUR master. This is great and I am happy for you that you have actually found a master in this lifetime and have successfully entere

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guybanner2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip I have been meditating for 37 yrs (TM instructor for nearly as long) > and I have been on MMY's staff for 5 years. The above is just one > example of Maharishi's great status. Maharishi is a very great > MA

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Sal Sunshine > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday > > > Is there

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK thriving (Was Fatwa update - UK grinding to a halt, just as MMY predicted

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
Exciting stuff. Hail Liverpool! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Didn't they come back from 3-nil against a superlative defensive > > team? (madrid?) Won on pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi into French fashion?

2005-06-04 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Manteau,Maharishi > > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Chemise,Maharishi > > > h

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sem is floridly psychotic and will be found not guilty > by reason of insanity and spend the rest of his life > in a psychiatric hospital/jail. Sad story all the way > around. MUM and Wysong really fvcked up on this o

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/3/05 7:29 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >>>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > > Enlightenment is supposed to be naturally connected with > > the thought of enlightenment of everyone--and this manifests thru > > compa

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you're still a smug bastard. That issue will probably resolve itself when he ultimately realizes that woowoo phenomena like he described have nothing to do with awakening. Alex To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK thriving (Was Fatwa update - UK grinding to a halt, just as MMY predicted

2005-06-04 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Didn't they come back from 3-nil against a superlative defensive > team? (madrid?) Won on penalty kicks, right? Some of us Yanks > know what REAL football is.:) > Jeff Milan, actually, but Yes, you are dead right.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread claudiouk
Rick - what was it about MMY that was so SPECIAL for YOU? And how did you handle the cognitive dissonance regarding his non-celibacy? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for posting this, Guy. It was a good reminder for me of how powerful > Mahar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Group unavailable (Rick Archer)

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Yeah Voodoisant group was lost for a few days. It's a Yahoo fart.     - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group unavailable (Rick Archer) on 6/4/05 1:43 PM, johnlasher20002000

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
To think that the opposite sex doesn't become more attractive as one's perception increases is funny. Only understanding the smashan makes it different. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
As dogs in NJ.     - Original Message - From: johnlasher20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
But you're still a smug bastard.   - Original Message - From: guybanner2002 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MMY - Celibacy - the Truth! In May, 1975 I attended an ATR in France. MMY was giving advanced techniques.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi into French fashion?

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Manteau,Maharishi > > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Chemise,Maharishi > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi into French fashion?

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Not the same Maharishi. This is a clothes line started a few years back, and tres cher.   - Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi into French fashion? http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raaj Million Buck Course.

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
So which would they be?     - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raaj Million Buck Course. Hey Kirk, you can download all of Maharishi's press conferences by going to www.mou

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTEC

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 4:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > And why do you believe that he is not? I asked you > > this before and your response was that you had seen > > enough. When I asked specifically what

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 2:28 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > But maybe he needed that relative experience to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Great feature "One Percent for Peace" in Yoga International

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
So now we see even more of the grand plan: as more and more new research is revealed, and more positive articles are written, MMY repositions the TM organization to focus primarily on elitists, while reawakening an awareness of his programs amongstthose that can't afford the current pricing. On

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK thriving (Was Fatwa update - UK grinding to a halt, just as MMY predicted

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
Didn't they come back from 3-nil against a superlative defensive team? (madrid?) Won on penalty kicks, right? Some of us Yanks know what REAL football is.:) Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most people on this list will not, I'm afraid, have a c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is > this an important > > > part of his reply or is it just the way you > wrote it? > > > > > > Rick Carlstrom > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MUM is not a dangerous place. The incident was a tragedy that could > > have > > happened anywhere. It is very easy to be wise in hindsi

Re: [FairfieldLife] M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Sal Sunshine > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] M.U.M. murder trial set > to begin Tuesday > > > Is there any truth to the rumor that som

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is > this an important > > >>> part of his reply or is it just the way you > wrote it? > > >>> > > >>> Rick Carlstrom > > >> > > >> It would be interesting to know how many people > on this board > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 2:28 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > But maybe he needed that relative experience to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is this an important > > part of his reply or is it just the way you wrote it? > > > > Rick Carlstrom > > It would be interesting to know how many people on this board

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I agree with Sparaig here. That ego is the precise > > obstacle to realization. There can not be an ego an > > realization simu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Sparaig here. That ego is the > precise > > > obstacle to rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi into French fashion?

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Manteau,Maharishi > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Chemise,Maharishi > http://www.sunsitemag.com/vente_en_ligne/vestimentaire_luxe/vestimentair > e/createur_de

Re: [FairfieldLife] M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
  - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday Is there any truth to the rumor that someone at MUM tried to get Sem to stop taking his meds, t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Treacle down economics.   - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that was my conclusion too. MUM sounds like a dangerous place, > pretty crazy in its own right. I was just thinking the same about people who believe that a place is dangerous because there was a murder committed

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY adopts France, but...

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Any French FFL members who can tell us how the news was received > > among French meditators and how the TMO is doing there generally?

[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any truth to the rumor that someone at MUM tried to get Sem to > stop taking his meds, telling him all he needed was TM? > > Sal What meds? Who told you he was on meds? If he was on meds, why didn't anyo

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 1:44 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Maharishi explicitly stated, in a lecture at Harvard Law School and > >> elsewhere, that we don't relinquish or destroy the ego with his > > path, but > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You could be in for a surprise: > http://www.shareintl.org > > The surprise is that you go on. > > -I'm not paranoid when I have my little spy > threads. I just keep at that because if the USA > Intelligence wanted to infiltrate TMO and Ben C

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
Guy, thanks for the wonderful post. Was that ATR in Courchevel? Your post reminded me again of what a powerful being MMY is. I too have had profound experiences with MMY that are really quite amazing. I disagree with your conclusion though. MMY present all of us with a tremendous paradox. Capable o

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY adopts France, but...

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vive la France! > > > > France has been adopted by MMY. > > On June 1st in the weekly press conference, Maharishi announced his > > plans

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
In my experience, enlightenment is an additiveprocess, not a subtractive one.  Nothing is lostor goes away when direct perception of the trans-cendent is added to one's daily perception; all of that other stuff is still there.  200% of life, as someone once said.UncUh, yeah, what he s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
You could be in for a surprise: http://www.shareintl.org   The surprise is that you go on.-I'm not paranoid when I have my little spy threads. I just keep at that because if the USA Intelligence wanted to infiltrate TMO and Ben Cream and other cults they would choose such a loopy wolf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 4:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > And why do you believe that he is not? I asked you > > this before and your response was that you had > seen > > enough. When I asked specifically what you had > seen or > > what

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Cool quote Bob. Sounds like something you might like to say if > > > someone > > > > finds fault/disagrees with your TM viewpoint. I'll let Rick A. > > weigh > > > > in on this one. > > > > > "He lists some

[FairfieldLife] Des Moines Register article on Peace Palace project

2005-06-04 Thread George DeForest
Title: DesMoinesRegister.com   Published June 4, 2005 Read up Learn more about Transcendental Meditation at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 4:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > And why do you believe that he is not? I asked you > this before and your response was that you had seen > enough. When I asked specifically what you had seen or > what degree of personal experience you have with "Mr. > Shankar" you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 2:46 PM, guybanner2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rick, I appreciate your comments... > My personal philosophy about rumors and inuendos is to only believe > that which I personally experience and know of first hand. Although that would have been impossible in this case, since you're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is > this an important > > part of his reply or is it just the way you wrote > it? > > > > Rick Carlstrom > > It would be interesting to know how many people on > this board actually > believes that Mr.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Great feature "One Percent for Peace" in Yoga Intern...

2005-06-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/4/05 3:35:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The Vedic maxim says that in the vicinity of the enlightened—those >experiencing unity (yoga)—there’s no violence. That’s the core principle. >If we create enough coherence in the collective

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 2:28 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But maybe he needed that relative experience to be more effective >> in the world? Maybe his nature, like that of most people, is not to > be a

[FairfieldLife] Speaking of Capitalism

2005-06-04 Thread easyone200
You have to love the right wings top "wrong book list" especially John Maynard Keynes' seminal "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" Making the cut!! JONATHAN CHAIT The Right's Wrong Books June 3, 2005 I try very, very hard not to think of the conservative movement as a gagg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"

2005-06-04 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The most fascinating thing I find about the list is that > there are several of the world's billionaires -- mainly > from old money -- that they cannot find a photograph of. > In my book, that shows incredible wisdom o

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread guybanner2002
Rick, I appreciate your comments... My personal philosophy about rumors and inuendos is to only believe that which I personally experience and know of first hand. (On several ocassions I have heard things come back about me that were said about me that were absolutely not true, yet believed with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Yeah, absolutely this is dangerous. I would suspect what this would engender would be people setting themselves up as teachers and selling their wares, websites, slick marketing, etcand this is exactly what has happened. It is essential to emphasize kindness, especially to people inter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
What is interesting thought, to me at least, is how the 9th mandala, the mandala of ego, is also the soma mandala, and I think that the relationship of soma, bodhicitta and ego is an interesting one.    - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Several years ago I asked SSRS about my experience ofego annihilation. He said enlightenment can start thatway or with identification and inclusion of everythingin awareness. He didn't indicate that one was more orless dangerous than another. But it was a briefconversation.---That's great

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
Well, that certainly sounds like now.  It really doesn't matter how shitty the circumstances for a Bodhisattva, as there's all the time in the world to get better. The harder the times the quicker one can rest on their laurels someday.      - Original Message - From: Vaj To: Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But maybe he needed that relative experience to be more effective > in the world? Maybe his nature, like that of most people, is not to be a > lifelong bramachari, yet his fame prevented him from making a lifestyle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
The most fascinating thing I find about the list is thatthere are several of the world's billionaires -- mainlyfrom old money -- that they cannot find a photograph of.In my book, that shows incredible wisdom on the part ofthose people.  No one knows what they look like, so theycan go where

Re: [FairfieldLife] question for Ingegerd re acem - an independent TM?

2005-06-04 Thread Llundrub
You saying we need more meditation techniques?   - Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] question for Ingegerd re acem - an independent TM? Acem Meditation is easy to learn, and involve

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
Thanks for this story, it illustrates a very important destinction between giving something up and replacing it with a higher desire. Most people are extremely threatened by the idea that engaging in sexual desire may in some way retard spiritual development. Rick Carlstrom -- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK thriving (Was Fatwa update - UK grinding to a halt, just as MMY predicted

2005-06-04 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most people on this list will not, I'm afraid, have a clue what the > Champions League is, nor be especially moved when told that it was > been won by.. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi into French fashion?

2005-06-04 Thread meltedcheeses
There is also this line of Maharishi clothing http://tinyurl.com/276pj mc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 12:18 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://fr.kelkoo.com/ctl/do/drilldown~108101/Manteau,Maharishi > > http://fr.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I agree with Sparaig here. That ego is the precise > > obstacle to realization. There can not be an ego an > > realization simult

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group unavailable (Rick Archer)

2005-06-04 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the group is frequently very slow or unavailable. This seems to be a > recent problem but makes it impossible to go through messages is there > something that can be done about this? I wonder if this is a bandwid

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) Enlightenment is supposed to be naturally connected with > the thought of enlightenment of everyone--and this manifests thru > compassion, that way you automatically not only retain a connection to > other beings, yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group unavailable (Rick Archer)

2005-06-04 Thread TurquoiseB
> > the group is frequently very slow or unavailable. This seems to be a > > recent problem but makes it impossible to go through messages is > > there something that can be done about this? > > > Anyone else experiencing this? I usually read mine via email, so I > don't encounter this problem.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group unavailable (Rick Archer)

2005-06-04 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 1:43 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > the group is frequently very slow or unavailable. This seems to be a > > recent problem but makes it impossible to go through messages is there > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread TurquoiseB
> >>> He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is this an important > >>> part of his reply or is it just the way you wrote it? > >>> > >>> Rick Carlstrom > >> > >> It would be interesting to know how many people on this board > >> actually believes that Mr. Ravi Shankar is enlightened. > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Group unavailable (Rick Archer)

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 1:43 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > the group is frequently very slow or unavailable. This seems to be a > recent problem but makes it impossible to go through messages is there > something that can be done about this? > Anyone else experiencing this? I usually rea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/4/05 1:26 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> He said enlightenment can "start" that way. Is this an important >>> part of his reply or is it just the way you wrote it? >>> >>> Rick Carlstrom >> >> It would be interesting to know how many people on this board >> actually believes

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY - Celibacy - the Truth!

2005-06-04 Thread Rick Archer
Thanks for posting this, Guy. It was a good reminder for me of how powerful Maharishi really is, though I haven't really forgotten. Totally awesome dude, to use modern vernacular. He helped me a lot in this way too, although my experiences weren't as dramatic as yours. My problem is (if it's a prob

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