[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body > > > digests food, or in changes i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Turquoise the reason that I asked that you not send posts > to my mame is because I find you to be angry, sad and lacking > social behavior. Be alone for a while, it will be better. Learn a little honesty, dud

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone was asking here recently what we thought, as TM-tru- > believers. Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. > > "It takes awhile to soften the environment ... we anticipate that > as America becomes truly i

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- tertonzeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --Right. Most succintly, there have been no clear > > testimonials of > > first hand GC (embracing Celestial/Glorified) levels > > of awareness; > > and how this is to be di

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body digests food, > > or in changes in metabolic rate, or a host of other things besides > > raw caloric > > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now why would anyone want to leave after such a warm welcome. Your > effect is working, Turquoise I was attempting open, civil discourse > and you showed yourself with one post. As did you. ONE person pokes a

[FairfieldLife] Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg Not sure how this URL got into the Trancenet Alert! post. It's a video made from Google Earth that zooms in on crop circles throughout Europe as they appeared on Google Earth in March 2008. There were some earlier similar videos, but this is the best on

[FairfieldLife] Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "taskcentered" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you read my counseling site, you'd see that I don't > actually list any groups as cults. > I've been writing about reforming TM for 13 years. > You and Judy are really howling at the wrong guy. There ARE > peop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Muktananda's experiences of the subtle levels of creation.

2008-06-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > ...in the > middle of my backyard, under the shadow of my avocado tree, [snip] Now, THIS I want to know more about! I take it from your internet moniker that you live in San Diego? Is that an ideal c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
---why in the world would TM need reforming? 10 lashes with a Roman flagellum for those who say this, especially those bashing TM who are in it for money. That's about as low as Hulk Hogan and his son trying to make money off that half brain dead victim of the Son's crash into a tree. Kabir on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "taskcentered" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, Judy, > > The subject of my exchange here is the reform I proposed > for TM in the post that began this thread. Yes, John, as I said, the subject of your exchange with me was why I had warned Dan about you.

[FairfieldLife] FW: Charming Early Maharishi Interview on CBC Vancouver TV

2008-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Early Maharishi Interview on CBC Vancouver TV Online Video 4:48 minutes To Play Video, Go To: http://www.cbc.ca/asianheritage/media/mahesh.ram You will need Real Player software to play this video clip. If you do not already have this software, you can download it for free at:

Re: [FairfieldLife] More phoney baloney from Obama

2008-06-20 Thread Louis McKenzie
He doesn't have to justify just do it.   Yet at the same time it can backfire. --- On Fri, 6/20/08, shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FairfieldLife] More phoney baloney from Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 20, 200

[FairfieldLife] Guru Amar Das on Naam

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
from "Naam or Word" by Kirpal Singh: (note: the word "Naam" - or Name - refers to the all-pervasive celestial Sound Current (especially in the Sant Mat tradition). Everyone does worship but on the sensual plane only, and so gets no results, But absorption in the Naam purifies the mind and bears

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Now comes Dan. Conditions, stipulatons, qualifications, if onlys. The world according to Dan, according to Dan, certainly would be a nearly ideal world. Dan knows whats best for FFL. It must be kindler, gentler. Dialog must be civil. There must be no sarcasm, or at least, very mild. Dan w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Someone was asking here recently what we thought, as TM-tru- believers. Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. "It takes awhile to soften the environment ... we anticipate that as America becomes truly invincible, then every aspect of life will become more and more enjoyable and balanced, and th

[FairfieldLife] Re: What would FFL be without its most strident voices?

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick, > > I believe you to be a man of conscience and good will. If some of > your moderation could lead to a more friendly FFL, I imagine an even > more open-minded conve

[FairfieldLife] Re: University of Iowa flooded

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , off_world_beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: What would FFL be without its most strident voices?

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 1:37 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: > > > Rick, > > > > And I appreciate your wisdom. In this case you'd be providing > > moderation, making this place better t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "taskcentered" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you read either the post that starts this thread or the 13-year-old post I linked to?>> Wow ! A 13 year old post? ! I didn't think the internet had been around that long ! OffWorld > > What parts do yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: > > > > Ruth and Richard went over. > > Yahoo Groups Post Counter > > =

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
I'm disappointed in sriswamijisadhaka. I thought he would do better than that. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ruth and Richard went over. > Yahoo Groups Post Counter > = > Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 14 00:00:00 20

[FairfieldLife] Re: University of Iowa flooded

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread taskcentered
No, Judy, The subject of my exchange here is the reform I proposed for TM in the post that began this thread. Did you agree with any points I made? Are you willing to discuss the points you disagree with? Are their points you'd like to add? J.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry for the delay in responding, but in EST we're just getting home > from work. Thanks for the encouragement, and I'll stick around to see > what's up.>> FFL is basica

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread taskcentered
Did you read either the post that starts this thread or the 13-year-old post I linked to? What parts do you disagree with? Are there any points you do agree with? Are there things you'd like to add? Wow, Lawson, your post is so far off the mark, I don't know where to begin. If you read my cou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ruth and Richard went over. > Yahoo Groups Post Counter > = > Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 14 00:00:00 2008 > End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 21 00:00:00 2008 > -- Searching... > > 914 messages as of (UTC) F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "taskcentered" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Blast away, Judy. I'm pleased to have people judge any of my sites according to their own > lights. > > But you continue to change the subject. Uh, no. The subject of your exchange with me was why I warned Dan

[FairfieldLife] Re: University of Iowa flooded

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > wrote: > > > > > Then hopefully they will build a levy that is strong enough,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Muktananda's experiences of the subtle levels of creation.

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from "The Play of Consciousness" (as he goes on to say later, as > prelude to his Realization of the Self).: > > "Gradually my meditation left the gross body and entered the subtle > body; A fascinating account-

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Maybe there's some consensus-reality-based > > explanation that *does* account for the data, but > > nobody's proposed it yet. Sticking with explanati

[FairfieldLife] Re: University of Iowa flooded

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > > Then hopefully they will build a levy that is strong enough, try to > > emulate the Dutch. Stupid American levees breaking all over the > pl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Abduction research, for Ruth (or not)

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Turq, you don't mind if I call you that, you seem to be a strong man. > I just read you saying; "When I posted my "invitation to lurkers," it > was with the idea of encouraging some who have been reluctant >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread taskcentered
Blast away, Judy. I'm pleased to have people judge any of my sites according to their own lights. But you continue to change the subject. To well-meaning readers: Do you agree with some points of my post on TM reform? Do you disagree with others? Do you have something to add that I failed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread new . morning
> Jesus. You sure have mastered the art of the run-on sentence! In Aramaic?

[FairfieldLife] some bloodsucking Chupacabras

2008-06-20 Thread matrixmonitor
at http://www.tinyurl.com/465jbv

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just one example: According to Budd Hopkins, for > the first 20 years he was researching this, he found > no reports of abductions that took place while the > subject was in bed at night. They all happened in > dayt

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your "in other words" above isn't a non sequitur, but > that ain't what I called a non sequitur. I wasn't > looking for you to be "blown away," "compelled," or > "impressed" by the reports; those are all non sequiturs

[FairfieldLife] Totapuri

2008-06-20 Thread tertonzeno
The phrase "devoid of all conceptual forms" might be construed as referring to Ramakrishna's practice of "going into Samadhi": from Wiki: Ishwar Totapuri (also Tota Puri) affectionately known as "Nangta Baba" (1780-?), born likely in Punjab, India, was a parivrajaka (wandering monk) who is said

[FairfieldLife] Re: University of Iowa flooded

2008-06-20 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > > Then hopefully they will build a levy that is strong enough, try to > > emulate the Dutch. Stupid American levees breaking all over the > pl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:10 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, sparaig wrote: There currently is no salient theoretical basis for the effect. Unless it's changed the theory was that alpha coherence, a primitiv

RE: [FairfieldLife] Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count -- New Week Begins Ruth and Richard went over. Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Sta

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body > > digests food, or in changes in metabolic rate, or a host > > of other things besides raw caloric intake

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Thios Fairfield life is way more complex than I'd expected. > > > > I'm just a simple boy from Harlem, NY. Can someone fill me > > > > in on WHAT'S GOI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Abduction research, for Ruth (or not)

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > wrote: > > > > > What about this? Watch all 5 parts (you see them appear in the s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
---Here's a different take on natural disasters: " In 1998, televangelist and erstwhile politician Pat Robertson warned the city of Orlando, Fla., that a gay celebration the city hosted would bring the wrath of God--in the form of a hurricane or other disaster--upon the entire city. Celebrating

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > The explanations are not stretched in my mind and are > > > > > > > consistent with research on how our minds work and how > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-20 Thread george_deforest
Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods Global Good News June 19, 2008 When asked about the recent flooding and extreme weather conditions in Iowa and other states in the USA, Raja Wynne explained that the campuses of Maharishi University of Management and the Invincibility Assembly had not been af

[FairfieldLife] Muktananda's experiences of the subtle levels of creation.

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
from "The Play of Consciousness" (as he goes on to say later, as prelude to his Realization of the Self).: "Gradually my meditation left the gross body and entered the subtle body; it left Rakteshwari, the goddess of the red aura, for Shveteshwari, the goddess of the white flame, and this thumb

[FairfieldLife] Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-20 Thread Bhairitu
Ruth and Richard went over. Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 14 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 21 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 914 messages as of (UTC) Fri Jun 20 23:55:45 2008 Member Posts ruth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Abduction research, for Ruth (or not)

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > > What about this? Watch all 5 parts (you see them appear in the side > > bar on the right. This is part 1. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The explanations are not stretched in my mind and are > > > > > > > consistent with research on how our minds work and how our > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body digests food, or in changes in metabolic rate, or a host of other things besides raw caloric intake as measured by the grams of food you eat or by huffing and puffing. You're still taking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread danfriedman2002
Turq, you don't mind if I call you that, you seem to be a strong man. I just read you saying; "When I posted my "invitation to lurkers," it was with the idea of encouraging some who have been reluctant to post *in that spirit* of open, unmoderated discus- sion to do so." I don't believe that's t

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > 4. Temporal lobe disturbance can cause hallucinations/weird mental > experiences. I know that many of you don't like Persinger, but he has > done good work on this. [nonsequitur time] I have nothing against

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Thanks for your excellent reply. Re:, statement "every perception > scintillates with numinous Holiness"; numinous: filled with a sense of the presence of divinity : holy Numinous Holiness: see redundant Lawso

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure."

2008-06-20 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The explanations are not stretched in my mind and are > > > > > > consistent with research on how our minds work and how our > > > > > > memories work. > > > > > > > > > > They're very plausible if you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> Well, the issue wasn't some vague "measurable effect," the poster > >> in question specifically mentioned a mantra he was sure had helped > >> him lose weight. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:14 PM, sparaig wrote: Well, the issue wasn't some vague "measurable effect," the poster in question specifically mentioned a mantra he was sure had helped him lose weight. And I submit that simply repeating a mantra, any mantra, without making corresponding changes in eith

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Turquoise the reason that I asked that you not send posts to my mame > is because I find you to be angry, sad and lacking social behavior. Turq. is known as "Old Grumpy

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 4:53 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> Amen, Turq. I've been more than a little amazed in the last > >> few days--mantras that cause one to lose weight, etc. > >> > >> I wonder--where's the mantra for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> There currently is no salient theoretical basis for the effect. > >> Unless it's changed the theory was that alpha coherence, a primitive > >> measure to begin with, done,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
--Thanks for your excellent reply. Re:, statement "every perception scintillates with numinous Holiness"; that could be the key ingredient distinguishing MMY's GC (and Unity, since the perceptions would still be available but with no attachment); from the Neo- Advaitic "level", which I claim to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thios Fairfield life is way more complex than I'd expected. > > > I'm just a simple boy from Harlem, NY. Can someone fill me > > > in on WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? > > > > Knapp is kind of a special case; he doesn't pos

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 3:36 PM, taskcentered wrote: > > > I may be wrong, Judy, but it seems when people disagree with your > > own views re TM, you attack them with disparaging labels -- ignoring > > the substance of wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread danfriedman2002
Turquoise the reason that I asked that you not send posts to my mame is because I find you to be angry, sad and lacking social behavior. Be alone for a while, it will be better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Is this like a support group for people battered by Catholic Nuns? Its for people who blame MMY for not reading their minds properly and so on. Lawson

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
--- tertonzeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --Right. Most succintly, there have been no clear > testimonials of > first hand GC (embracing Celestial/Glorified) levels > of awareness; > and how this is to be distinguished from CC. > Also, the accounts of "witnessing" during sleep are > suspiciou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread danfriedman2002
Now why would anyone want to leave after such a warm welcome. Your effect is working, Turquoise I was attempting open, civil discourse and you showed yourself with one post. I repect what you could be, but not much now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Judy will tell you I am less than honorable, too. > Stick around long enough, and she'll say it about > you as well. It's just what she DOES. > Actually, Unc, if I took you seriously, I'd consider you "less than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread danfriedman2002
Sorry for the delay in responding, but in EST we're just getting home from work. Thanks for the encouragement, and I'll stick around to see what's up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" > wro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What would FFL be without its most strident voices?

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 20, 2008, at 1:37 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: > > > Rick, > > > > And I appreciate your wisdom. In this case you'd > be providing > > moderation, making this place better than "preety > good". > > Dan, here's a friendly question- when was the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered wrote: > > > > So here are a few tips for Nader, Hagelin, and the other new TM > leaders. [...] > > I'm sure readers will think of more bottom-line policies f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "danfriedman2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > John, > > > > I received this post > > > > "Dan, you're aware that Knapp is a long-time, > ferocious > > critic of TM, right? I seriously doubt he has any >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
Hey Dan, FFL is like a bar in an old Western. Good guys, bad guys and everything in-between. But one thing we all have in common is that we all have been around the spiritual block, many, many times so we don't suffer fools, movement windbags, or moodmakers. So you're very welcome to come in and y

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" wrote: > > >> > > >> TM requir

[FairfieldLife] ABC News: Bob Dylan Sings Obama's Praises

2008-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5014367 &page=1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, sparaig wrote: There currently is no salient theoretical basis for the effect. Unless it's changed the theory was that alpha coherence, a primitive measure to begin with, done, en masse, creates a field effect. But unfortunately this is just bad neuroscience, the sa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is just like screwing

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Was anyone on the Santa Barbara ATR course where > Maharishi gave a > lecture in > > which he said over and over again that TM was just > like screwing? No > one

[FairfieldLife] Deepak, David, Donovan

2008-06-20 Thread cardemaister
www.serotoninrising.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 20, 2008, at 4:53 PM, sparaig wrote: Amen, Turq. I've been more than a little amazed in the last few days--mantras that cause one to lose weight, etc. I wonder--where's the mantra for making flood waters recede? Sal I don't know about flood-waters, but to suggest that you can be s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > Judy (authfriend) has her own anti-TM website > at well: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ > > There are many who believe that it has turned > more people away from TM and the TM movement > than John's has. > Ad hominem is the second to last resort of someone who is loosi

[FairfieldLife] 'The Love Guru'

2008-06-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
"Bearded and with a bulbous schnoz, Myers's resplendently robed Pitka looks like a cross between a peacock and the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. He could have stepped right out of the cover of the "Sergeant Pepper" album. Ensconced in America, with a celebrity clientele, Pitka churns out a steady s

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 4:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > I've read nothing here about mantras (nor have > > I ever experienced anything personally when > > working with them) that cannot be explained > > by the placebo e

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:18 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Consider teh meditation teacher who tells his students to grit > > their teeth and keep > > on plugging away at thinking the mantra, even when discomfort > > arises, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: CO'B and DC!

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
---He still uses his TM mantra, but you append "money" at the beginning. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Comments from alt.fan.conan-obrien: > > That was the best thing that's been on the show in ages. I usually > think Chopra's half-full of c

[FairfieldLife] CO'B and DC!

2008-06-20 Thread cardemaister
Comments from alt.fan.conan-obrien: That was the best thing that's been on the show in ages. I usually think Chopra's half-full of crap, but imo he read Conan like a book. That may have been the single greatest moment in the history of the show. In this final year of Lat

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:50 PM, sandiego108 wrote: > > > But what if it is the most efficient, the easiest to practice, > > provides the greatest benefits after the shortest amount of time? > > What if after more years pass,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 8:53 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> Maybe they should change their emphasis from "world effects" to the > >> simple fact that it's very supporti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
> > Thios Fairfield life is way more complex than I'd expected. > > I'm just a simple boy from Harlem, NY. Can someone fill me > > in on WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? > > Knapp is kind of a special case; he doesn't post here > much. He has his own anti-TM blog, TMFree.blogspot.com. Judy (authfriend) has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2008, at 3:36 PM, taskcentered wrote: I may be wrong, Judy, but it seems when people disagree with your own views re TM, you attack them with disparaging labels -- ignoring the substance of what they have to say? I actually have named a new logical fallacy after our Dear Editor

[FairfieldLife] Health benefits of Krill oil

2008-06-20 Thread yifuxero
Could be the ultimate supplement (I don't market them...just take them). Recommended that you consume the Krill oil before the whales do. Let them become extinct. Many Ways Krill Oil Supports You* A healthy heart* Support for concentration, memory & learning* Blood sugar health* Healthy j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's One for Shemp

2008-06-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/multimedia/video.cfm? c_id=1501834&objectid=10516992&content_media_id=5005574 > > As a long-time fan of science fiction, and as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's One for Shemp

2008-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/multimedia/video.cfm?c_id=1501834&objectid=10516992&content_media_id=5005574 As a long-time fan of science fiction, and as someone who has worked with and partied down with some of the strongest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "There's a history here you aren't aware of." > > Thios Fairfield life is way more complex than I'd expected. > I'm just a simple boy from Harlem, NY. Can someone fill me > in on WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? Knapp is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Is this like a support group for people battered by Catholic Nuns? > lol- most definitely!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > And they've been reluctant > > to do so even anonymously here on FFL because they knew > > from reading the posts that the moment they did, some- > >

[FairfieldLife] Here's One for Shemp

2008-06-20 Thread Bhairitu
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/multimedia/video.cfm?c_id=1501834&objectid=10516992&content_media_id=5005574

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "taskcentered" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Judy, > > I make no secret of my views on TM. I criticize some aspects of the TM > Movement. AND I praise meditation > for most people. > > For goodness sake, I

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