On 8/15/2014 1:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
What I find kind of interesting is to see people here, over time, keep
discounting anything to do with MMY.
I don't mean to single out Barry, but I've seen, (particularly with
that quote Judy found), that MMY's stature has gone from someone
enlightened, in Barry's eyes, to someone with no awakening, but rather
a personality that people just latched onto because they had a cult
mindset.
It's a natural process you might not be familiar with, Steve, because
it's called "growing up."
>
Yes, that's what it is - "floating up". Go figure.
"What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a
while."
Author: TurquoiseB
Subject: Levitation
Forum. Yahoo FairfieldLife
Date: July 8, 2007
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
>
There has NEVER been a time on either a.m.t. or on FFL in which I said
that I believed that Maharishi was enlightened, because it would not
have been true. The only time I thought that was during the early
years when I was as bamboozled by his act as anyone else. But during
my TTC and afterwards, as I got to work more closely with Maharishi, I
realized that I had never once seen or experienced anything I would
categorize as "darshan" or "shakti" or even "charisma." As far as
those qualities go, he had the charisma of a wet burrito, compared to
many teachers I have worked with since.
When I left the TMO and began to interface with other teachers from
real traditions, I found out what real charisma and personal power
were like, and thus realized how little of them Maharishi had had. I
also got to learn from real spiritual traditions, as opposed to the
ones he had made up and ripped off from Hinduism, just dressed in
Western clothing. In terms of intellect and being able to give truly
"advanced lectures," Maharishi was a spiritual kindergarten-level
teacher at best.
So there is simply no possibility of me considering him "enlightened."
OR of considering him a good teacher. I *did* learn some useful things
from him, and I thank him for those, but not to the point of feeling
the need to put him up on some unrealistic pedestal for having
qualities he never had.
Do you still revere your kindergarten teacher, and place him or her up
on some kind of pedestal of supposed wisdom, the way you might have
"at the time?" Of course you don't. Similarly, I don't consider
Maharishi anything more than one of the first teachers I ever worked
with, back when I was young and naive and easily impressed. I have
grown since then, and can "call a con man a con man" when it is
appropriate.
People -- including yourself, Steve -- DID latch on to Maharishi
because he cultivated in them a cult mindset. Some of us grew up and
got over it, and can in retrospect see him a little more clearly. If
you can't, and get uptight when you hear other people doing so, you'll
have to forgive me if I don't consider that my problem.
It really doesn't make a lot of sense, and as Jim likes to point out,
says a lot more about the person finding fault, that the object of
that person's criticism.
I guess this is a just sayin' observation.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
While reading this I see that this was a golden time for MMY and for
the Movement. There is so much power behind what he says here and
seemingly so much truth. This was a pleasure to read. It reminds me
why I started to meditate back in 1970 and why I attended MIU. What a
pleasure to read!
Jai Guru Dev
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