[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread authfriend
Probably not, at least right now, but it's becoming increasingly accepted in less-formal contexts, as I say. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I don't believe they as a single pronoun would pass muster in a formal report to Congress. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread Share Long
John and Judy, I have been shocked by the grammar and spelling mistakes I have seen in so called formal documents, such as business memos. So nothing would surprise me in that regard. Like how many people get it's and its wrong; don't use possessive before a gerund; get there, their and they're

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread Share Long
It's a grammar jungle out there imho (-: On Sunday, December 1, 2013 9:35 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:   John and Judy, I have been shocked by the grammar and spelling mistakes I have seen in so called formal documents, such as business memos. So nothing would surprise me

[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: It's a grammar jungle out there imho (-: http://www.buzzfeed.com/aj8/19-jokes-only-grammar-nerds-will-understand-\ cfe3 http://www.buzzfeed.com/aj8/19-jokes-only-grammar-nerds-will-understand\ -cfe3

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread Share Long
I'm a grammar nerd and nazi and I never knew til today. See, this is why I love FFL (-: On Sunday, December 1, 2013 9:47 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: It's a grammar jungle out there imho (-:

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread jr_esq
Share, That is a good reason why a person who can write well will be successful in any big organization like the government and universities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John and Judy, I have been shocked by the grammar and spelling mistakes I have seen

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread emilymaenot
JR, how do you define success in the context of your comment? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Share, That is a good reason why a person who can write well will be successful in any big organization like the government and universities. ---In

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread emilymaenot
Thanks John. I haven't found that success in terms of promotion or better pay depends much on good writing as a criteria in general, but depends on the position. Success is a subjective term and certainly to enjoy one's work is to have succeeded. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread authfriend
I always thought it would make sense for writers to use the pronoun appropriate to their sex. A man would always use he and a woman she. If that became the consistent standard convention, it would make things so much simpler. (Only problem would be if an author's name wasn't gender-specific,

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread jr_esq
S3, When a writer wants to address both or all genders, it is recommended to use a generic term such as the spectator or meditator. If the writer wants to be more specific, then the gender specific pronouns. like he and she, can be used. But the accepted authority in the USA for the

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-12-01 Thread authfriend
John wrote: Re the accepted authority in the USA for the American English usage is contained in Elements of Style by Strunk and White.: I missed this. No, John, it isn't. It's a respected reference, but it's considered somewhat outdated, has a lot of mistakes, and is not nearly

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-11-30 Thread jr_esq
Some people would probably take that as an offense since it applies to an inanimate being or something impersonal. But I do have a problem with addressing one person as they. Some people may find this as rude and a violation of good etiquette. Nonetheless, there are some languages in the

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personal Gender Pronouns

2013-11-30 Thread jr_esq
I would agree that the use of the person's given name sounds better and would be grammatically correct. It would take a long time for they to be accepted as a singular pronoun. As it is, American English is probably evolving quite differently from British English. For example, foreign words