[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-18 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maharishi's approach has always been, we tell people what we want > > to tell them, not what they want to hear. I've heard him say that > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> What is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever > >> it is, I don¹t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> What is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever > >> it is, I don¹t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 6:39 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with > >> our message in neon on the side, and it > >> would still be ignored or sc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you Rick, for the clarification of false and real Guru, explained by Amma. It is exactly what I have had in mind. Ingegerd > Amma never criticizes other gurus by name, but she is outspoken about the > principles she expects a guru to abide by. Here's something I found on > another forum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> What is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever > >> it is, I don¹t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 6:39 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/17/05 4:26 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever >> it is, I don¹t think he wants >> to hear it. So we could hire the Goodyear >> Blimp and fly it over Vlod

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever > it is, I don¹t think he wants > to hear it. So we could hire the Goodyear > Blimp and fly it over Vlodrop with > our message in neon on the side, and it > would still b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-17 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > > > > > Funding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Rick should go into politics. He's got the technique of the > smear down nicely. As do you. Why don't you run against him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 9:42 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> what is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever it is, I don¹t think >> he wants to hear it. So we could hire the Goodyear Blimp and fly it >> over Vlodrop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is it we¹re trying to tell him? Whatever it is, I don¹t think > he wants to hear it. So we could hire the Goodyear Blimp and fly it > over Vlodrop with our message in neon on the side, and it would > still be ign

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 6:14 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >>> I haven't even HEARD about the offspring thing before. >>> >>> Share! Sh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation) on 7/16/04 5:57 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He doesn't surf but probably every person in his organization does.  Rick specializes in increasing ratings. All that has to happen is that if anyone d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 5:38 PM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think Rick should go into politics. He's got the technique of the > smear down > nicely. Maybe I should go into journalism. I know stuff but my sources aren't ready to go public. Like Carl Bernstein, they're waiting for "Deep Throat" t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] > > > I haven't even HEARD about the offspring thing be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
> > But are you asking me to believe that he never > > sees a newspaper, and does not have one paper > > that he looks at on a regular basis? > > Uns. > "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Better just to make a website and zoom it to front page of MSN or > something. > > That'll take some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > I haven't even HEARD about the offspring thing before. > > > > Share! Share! >>. > > Oh Gawd here we go again with the unsubstantiate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Llundrub
tence.     - Original Message - From: uns_tressor To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation) > > on 7/16/05 9:06 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:> > > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 7/16/05 11:51 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > [...] > > You will never get any respons from MMY. Some of the old TM- Teachers > > in Norway, who really was known of MMY for many years, wrote a letter > > to him to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread feste37
I think Rick should go into politics. He's got the technique of the smear down nicely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 4:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> And when asked if he had any offspring, he said he was a monk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
> > on 7/16/05 9:06 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to > > > be like many top rock stars - surrounded by a barrier of > > > second rate and insecure toadies. > > > If a page ad were to be taken out, the whole point

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 4:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> And when asked if he had any offspring, he said he was a monk. >> Brilliantly >>> evasive.>>> >> >> This would only be confusing to the devious mind intent on peddling >> unfounded gossip and low-level jabs. > > I haven't even HEARD

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread feste37
That only appears evasive to someone with a mind like Rick Archer's. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And when asked if he had any offspring, he said he was a monk. Brilliantly > evasive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 7/16/05 11:51 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > There seems no question in my mind that Maharishi is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 11:51 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There seems no question in my mind that Maharishi is the one calling > > the shots. He's not interested in wordly events. When Larry King > > aske

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 11:30 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > ...but you say that there is no pubication that > > he reads himself? I would imagine that his inner > > sanctum would have twelve daily papers in a n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" [...] > You will never get any respons from MMY. Some of the old TM-Teachers > in Norway, who really was known of MMY for many years, wrote a letter > to him to tell him how difficult it was to initiate when the course- > fee was raised. No respon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Llundrub
Better just to make a website and zoom it to front page of MSN or something.     - Original Message - From: uns_tressor To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I agree, Maharishi was not trying to get any new people in that > > interview. > > As I recall, he said rather specifically

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, Maharishi was not trying to get any new people in that > interview. As I recall, he said rather specifically that he'd *stopped* looking, that he'd changed his mind about what was important. To su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 11:51 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There seems no question in my mind that Maharishi is the one calling > > the shots. He's not interested in wordly events. When Larry King > > ask

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 11:51 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There seems no question in my mind that Maharishi is the one calling > the shots. He's not interested in wordly events. When Larry King > asked him : "Where were you on 9-11?", Maharishi answered "I don't > know, someone told me a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > > > > > Funding t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 11:30 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ...but you say that there is no pubication that > he reads himself? I would imagine that his inner > sanctum would have twelve daily papers in a neat > rack, with his favourite, probably in an Indian > language, either on top, or set

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 7/16/05 11:13 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > s, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to > > >>> be like m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 11:13 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: s, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to > >>> be like many top rock stars - surrounded by a barrier of > >>> second rate and insecure toadies.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 11:13 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 7/16/05 9:06 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to >>> be like many top rock st

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > > > Funding the placing of a full page advertisement may sound > > daunting, but it is accomplishable. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 10:04 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Bingo! I just thought he would be shown it because it's a pretty > > comprehensive comparison about his movement. I did not realize that he > > was t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/16/05 9:06 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Yes, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to > > be like many top rock stars - surrounded by a barrier of > > second rate and insecure toa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > > > Funding the placing of a full page advertisement may sound > > daunting, but it is accomplishable. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 10:04 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Bingo! I just thought he would be shown it because it's a pretty > comprehensive comparison about his movement. I did not realize that he > was that closed off. I figured he would remember Rick as well. He would, but the most he'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > > > Funding the placing of a full page advertisement may sound > > daunting, but it is accomplishable. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/16/05 9:06 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes, I agree. My idea was to break the wall. MMY seems to > be like many top rock stars - surrounded by a barrier of > second rate and insecure toadies. > If a page ad were to be taken out, the whole point > would be that these sy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
> > That's why the TMO won't survive in it's present form. He needs > > to see stuff like this FFL article. > > Funding the placing of a full page advertisement may sound > daunting, but it is accomplishable. Is there a newspaper that > Maharishi would definitely read or have drawn to his attent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting through (Was: Guru Purnima Invitation)

2005-07-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > No way that article or anything even remotely