--- Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
heart has a feeling - an attraction
or repulsion - then the whole rest of
the individuality (the intellect, and
its servants, the mind and senses)
go out and FIND evidence to support,
to validate, that belief.
Our photography teacher at MIU, whose
name
--- Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
heart has a feeling - an attraction
or repulsion - then the whole rest of
the individuality (the intellect, and
its servants, the mind and senses)
go out and FIND evidence to support,
to validate, that belief.
Our photography teacher at MIU, whose
name
Thank you Michael,
I am at work and have just skimmed your reply, and realize this is a
text I will have to come back and exrecize my intellect on to
understand more profoundly :-)
JGD
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peterklutz [EMAIL
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So, where does mind stop and intellect start? Any hard criteria?
The mechanics of perception and discrimination that our intellect
would LIKE us to believe in goes like this: sensory input comes in
from
--- Peter wrote:
Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara
pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about
your experience. I've only had one clear experience of
rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I
started TM. I only knew what it was several years
later on TTC
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Yoga Vasistha is very good -- the book is Vasistha's Yoga by Swami
Venkatesananda, State university of New York Press. Can order through
21st Century books, (at MUM), or Amazon.com. (don't bother with the
abridged version
(snip)
The intellect is the discriminator, which makes it possible for us to
make decisions -- buddhi (intellect) throws light on the mind to
make
decisions possible (and thank God, it enables Prez Bush to say I am
the decider).
My experience is different:
For me the 'mind' is everything
peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, where does mind stop and intellect start? Any hard criteria?
The mechanics of perception and discrimination that our intellect
would LIKE us to believe in goes like this: sensory input comes in
from the objective world, is registered by the mind and
--- Peter wrote:
Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara
pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about
your
experience. I've only had one clear experience of
rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I
started TM.
Peter, yesterday evening, after we had
Thanks!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at peterklutz@
wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved
Thanks!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
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--- peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
groups@ wrote:
on 9/15/06 3:46
So, where does mind stop and intellect start? Any hard criteria?
Also, has MMY indicated any required reading (shortlist preferred)
to give the mind/intellect the stuff it needs to completely
grasp/stabilize experiences TC/CC?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, where does mind stop and intellect start? Any hard criteria?
Is that even a valid question? Looking at the stuff that Fred's been doiing, we
know when
mind stops: the thalamus reduces activity to the point where
Seems like 'mahat' (mahat-tattva[sp?]: the great principle)
also means 'intellect':
1 mahat mfn. (orig. pr. p. of 1. %{mah} ; strong form , %{mahAnt} f. %
{mahatI4} ; in ep. often %{mahat} for %{mahAntam} ; ibc. mostly %
{mahA} q.v.) great (in space , time , quantity or degree)
snip
(rarely
I think you misunderstand the question: stop and start refer to the
boundaries of mind and intellect, respectively - not their functional
status.
Moreover, the problem is not how normal a state is with reference to
the Universe/Cosmos in toto, but the discrepancy between this state
and other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading MMY's comments on the BG it's obvious that
intellectually understanding higher states is required,
lest confusion should set in.
And in many other traditions, they would say
that for anyone who actually
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Seems like 'mahat' (mahat-tattva[sp?]: the great principle)
also means 'intellect':
1 mahat mfn. (orig. pr. p. of 1. %{mah} ; strong form , %{mahAnt}
f. %
{mahatI4} ; in ep. often %{mahat} for %{mahAntam} ; ibc.
Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara
pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about your
experience. I've only had one clear experience of
rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I
started TM. I only knew what it was several years
later on TTC when MMY mentioned it and said
--- Peter wrote:
Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara
pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about your
experience. I've only had one clear experience of
rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I
started TM. I only knew what it was several years
later on TTC when MMY
--- Peter wrote:
Ritam bhara pragya
The intent to know something gives rise
to the immediate fulfillment of that intent clearly
and completely.
I haven't had clear, diagram-like knowledge, but I
certainly have had answers come upon asking a
question. Once I asked a co-worker how a
Is being scatterbrained your normal state of awareness? Is there
something wrong with the cabling from your eyes to your brain that
make the letters appear different than what they are? Is there
something wrong with your brain as it attempts to process the
information it receives? Are you just
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote:
Reading MMY's comments on the BG it's obvious that
intellectually understanding higher states is required,
lest confusion should set in.
And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
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--- peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
groups@ wrote:
on 9/15/06 3:46 PM,
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Peter wrote:
Ritam bhara pragya
The intent to know something gives rise
to the immediate fulfillment of that intent
clearly
and completely.
I haven't had clear, diagram-like knowledge, but I
certainly have had answers come
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Peter wrote:
Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara
pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about
your
experience. I've only had one clear experience of
rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I
started TM. I only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Peter wrote:
Ritam bhara pragya
The intent to know something gives rise
to the immediate fulfillment of that intent
clearly
and completely.
I
Reading the BG it seems mind and intellect are two distinct faculties.
Most of us probably have a good idea what mind is, but what is
intellect?
In what way is intellect different from mind?
quote
Where does mind stop and intellect start?
/quote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
It would seem you would be uniquely positioned to comment on this:
what about nutcases who think they are Alexander the Great..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
... the mind always functions like
this and that everyone is always functioning from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
Reading MMY's comments on the BG it's obvious that
intellectually understanding higher states is required,
lest confusion should set in.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
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--- Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote:
--- Peter wrote:
Ritam bhara pragya
The intent to know something gives rise
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading the BG it seems mind and intellect are two distinct faculties.
Most of us probably have a good idea what mind is, but what is
intellect?
Intellect is what gives rise to mind. You can't have thoughts without
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
Reading MMY's comments on the BG it's obvious that
intellectually
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz
peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So, where does mind stop and intellect start? Any hard criteria?
Also, has MMY indicated any required reading (shortlist preferred)
to give the mind/intellect the stuff it needs to completely
grasp/stabilize
Yoga Vasistha is very good -- the book is Vasistha's Yoga by Swami
Venkatesananda, State university of New York Press. Can order through
21st Century books, (at MUM), or Amazon.com. (don't bother with the
abridged version -- just the full version). Read some daily.
Also, has MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
Buddhi
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on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
pragya
Sounds like a compound - what does it mean literally?
What was the skt original for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
pragya
Although the TMO (and others) use the term Pragya aparadh to mean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at peterklutz@ wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
pragya
Maharishi Ayurveda on buddhi, the finest aspect of mind which allows us
to discriminate:
On Sep 15, 2006, at 6:07 PM, bob_brigante wrote:
Although the TMO (and others) use the term Pragya aparadh to mean
the mistake of the intellect ( http://www.ar-
t.org/Salient_Words/Indirectly_Related/Flu_virus/flu_virus.html ),
buddhi means intellect (which everybody has), pragya means pure
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On Sep 15, 2006, at 6:07 PM, bob_brigante wrote:
Although the TMO (and others) use the term Pragya aparadh to mean
the mistake of the intellect ( http://www.ar-
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on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at peterklutz@ wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
pragya
Sounds like a
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What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for intellect?
blind obedience.
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on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word for
intellect?
pragya
Sounds like a compound - what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
What was the skt original for thruth-saying/bearing
intellect?
Ritam bhara pragya
The subjective experience of this very fine level of
the intellect is that every
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--- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 9/15/06 3:46 PM, peterklutz at peterklutz@
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What is the TM/MMY-approved sanskrit word
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What's really funny for me right now is how everything is flipped
upside down and inside out. I have zero formal training in
self-inquiry, and asking myself who am I used to result in
nothing
but frustration and an
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful* tool in
the attainment of higher states was found so incorrect by some
readers as to be hilarious, at least can't help but raise a smile. So
much talk on
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful* tool in
the attainment of higher states was found so incorrect by some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Everyone agrees that the intellect is essential
in the attainment of higher states.
Not to nitpick, but not everyone agrees with that. :-)
The intellect is considered valuable by some paths
that have the goal of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least
can't help but raise a smile.
That's a topic
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite
That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least
can't help but raise a smile.
That's a topic I participated in, but it was Barry who
viciously
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least
can't help but raise a smile.
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least
can't help but raise a smile.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite useful*
tool in the attainment of higher states was found so
incorrect by some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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That the simple statment, the intellect is a quite
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