[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > a position that is fraught with > > addictive pain. > > > Hi Rory, so are you using the expression "addictive pain" because we > find it easier to rec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Right, but Byron Katie is a Neo-Advaitin, and if we go too far into > that realm, there's no karma, no people, no suffering (in fact, > nothing!). Has that been your experience with her Inquiry? It certainl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes! Do you have to tread? Can you walk, saunter, run, skip or hop? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a position that is fraught with > addictive pain. > Hi Rory, so are you using the expression "addictive pain" because we find it easier to recycle the pain habitually (from a separated ego standpoint), vs. face Realit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread matrixmonitor
--Right, but Byron Katie is a Neo-Advaitin, and if we go too far into that realm, there's no karma, no people, no suffering (in fact, nothing!). Nope - Buddhism as a whole has more compassion. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes! > Ananda Ma (I think this is the one in CA) yes Maharishi G- yes BillyG- Yes Swami G- I don't know Ronmay, TanmayG- I thought it over- Kundalini is transcient, when all is gone, what remains is Being- I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This post is precious. > > One TM brainwashed cult fanatic -- nablusoss1008 -- insults a former TM > brainwashed cult fanatic -- Ron -- who is currently the brainwashed > cult fanatic of another guru because he no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now let me get this straight. This sobering up > and seeing things otherwise, that's something > that we "should" be doing? *lol* Do what you want, of course -- I don't expect you to do otherwise! What you choose to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > I think that this is the most accurate and telling > > statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is > > most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that this is the most accurate and telling > statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is > most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majority > of posts here about spiritual "progress." It's > about *persona

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread BillyG.
Yes!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This post is precious. > > One TM brainwashed cult fanatic -- nablusoss1008 -- insults a former TM > brainwashed cult fanatic -- Ron -- who is currently the brainwashed > cult fanatic of another guru because he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
This post is precious. One TM brainwashed cult fanatic -- nablusoss1008 -- insults a former TM brainwashed cult fanatic -- Ron -- who is currently the brainwashed cult fanatic of another guru because he no longer follows the dictums of the TM cult. Please. More of such posts. I can't get eno

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
"Such a guru my be a Sadguru for one person and not a Sadguru for another." Cheer up little Sad Guru. Things aren't so bad. Get outside, throw a frisbee, get a girlfriend, share some ice cream. Where's that smile little Sad Guru...there it is! Whose being a silly little Sad Guru now? If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YOU ARE A FOOL, fooling yourself has no great value. Get a job.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Vaj
On Jul 23, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: For example, for the last year and a half, I've often had the subtle energetic sensation that the top of my head is not there and that there's a sort of fountain shooting up and out of it. Sounds very much like one the "counterpart sign" of e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > I think that this is the most accurate and telling > > statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is > > most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majority

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Peter
If you spend time with a "guru" and you do not become Realized, guess what? They're not your Sadguru. You gain value from that association and perhaps in the scheme of things you needed to spend some time unstressing/purifying/completing-a-karmic-debt with that particular guru. Such a guru my be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only thing I can think of at the moment, after reading your > whole post, is that famous quote, if at first you dont succeed, > try and try again. In other words, just as I was saying at the beginning of this exchang

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Ron
Hello, The only thing I can think of at the moment, after reading your whole post, is that famous quote, if at first you dont succeed, try and try again. Possibly rather than lump the whole Guru trip as something you have decided you were bored with, as none of them did anything for you, may

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Vaj
On Jul 23, 2007, at 6:56 AM, t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that this is the most accurate and telling > statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is > most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majority > of posts here ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > My post is about a topic one level further up the > > logic tree -- why do you assume that someone is a > > "guru," and *when* you do, why do you assume that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that this is the most accurate and telling > statement in your post, Ron, and the one that is > most relevant to Fairfield Life and the majority > of posts here about spiritual "progress." It's > about *personal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No one has yet stated the obvious, and that is that it > is not necessary to tread the path of "kundalini > awakening" to become realized. Of course those on such > a path will claim it is. > > Tanmay: Well peter, I am usin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" wrote: > > > > > No one has yet stated the obvious, and that is that it > > > is not necessary to tread the path of "kundalini > > > awakening" to become realized. Of course

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No one has yet stated the obvious, and that is that it > > is not necessary to tread the path of "kundalini > > awakening" to become realized. Of course those on such > > a path will claim it is. > > Tanmay: Well peter, I