[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > I believe that that is pretty much how Indians view history: through > the filter > > of a moral/spiritual teaching story, NOT a sequential list of > events. The even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-12 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > I believe that that is pretty much how Indians view history: through the filter > of a moral/spiritual teaching story, NOT a sequential list of events. The events are > ordered to fit in properly with the story, not the other way 'round.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" wrote: > > This is a point of view that resonates with me, too. Guru Dev was the > love of Maharishi's life and his rememberances of the instances of > such an overwhelming relationship subject to confabulation. > > But the two versions are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" wrote: > > No one was casting aspersions or trying to score points against > Maharishi, certainly not me; and Curtis has explained his motivations > clearly. > > It is clear that Maharishi was always more concerned with making his > point th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread Marek Reavis
No one was casting aspersions or trying to score points against Maharishi, certainly not me; and Curtis has explained his motivations clearly. It is clear that Maharishi was always more concerned with making his point than being factually accurate. The mission was what was important, everythi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > The phrase "love at first sight" is my phrase > about his experience. He didn't use that phrase. OK, I thought I remembered it from his own account. I see if I c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > "habitual naysayer", I could put that on my business card! "Sensitive Prick" has a nice ring to it as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
"habitual naysayer", I could put that on my business card! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > I stand corrected. I wrote this before I read your friendly exchange > with ED. Perhaps aspersions is too strong a word in this instance but > remains appropriate for habitua

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: The phrase "love at first sight" is my phrase about his experience. He didn't use that phrase. I see if I can dig up his exact words. As far as I remember, he had never seen Guru Dev before, he only knew that he was a great saint that h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread raunchydog
I stand corrected. I wrote this before I read your friendly exchange with ED. Perhaps aspersions is too strong a word in this instance but remains appropriate for habitual naysayers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > Your memory > of the two years is also incorrect. He claims that > it took him 2 years to attune his mind to Guru Dev's > when he was already in the ashram answering letters > for him. He would read them back to Guru Dev and af

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > Integrating the whole of all the moving parts of a memorable event > into one's consciousness is a gestalt experience relevant to how one > feels and may or may not reflect an accurate account of objective > "reality." Facts fade on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > So the central story of Maharishi's life is > inconsistent. He tell two different versions > of the story of his instant appreciation of > Guru Dev. Here he says it was during a > procession, but in a tape I heard many times > o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > if you say you saw the tape numerous times, then i acknowledge the > > contradiction-- no problem. i am quite careful about what the > > Maharishi did or didn't say, and i thought intially you were > > reaching a conclusion

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread raunchydog
Integrating the whole of all the moving parts of a memorable event into one's consciousness is a gestalt experience relevant to how one feels and may or may not reflect an accurate account of objective "reality." Facts fade on the level of feeling. Unfortunately, an opportunity to cast aspersions o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
> if you say you saw the tape numerous times, then i acknowledge the > contradiction-- no problem. i am quite careful about what the > Maharishi did or didn't say, and i thought intially you were > reaching a conclusion that supported your bias. I acknowledge that bias but it is in the context

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > wrote: > > > > as i recall, when the Maharishi saw Guru Dev at his ashram it was in > > a slightly different context than this first sighting during a > > procession,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" wrote: > > This is a point of view that resonates with me, too. Guru Dev was the > love of Maharishi's life and his rememberances of the instances of > such an overwhelming relationship subject to confabulation. > > But the two versions are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > as i recall, when the Maharishi saw Guru Dev at his ashram it was in > a slightly different context than this first sighting during a > procession, that of joining Guru Dev's organization, and confirming > by the headlights shi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread Marek Reavis
This is a point of view that resonates with me, too. Guru Dev was the love of Maharishi's life and his rememberances of the instances of such an overwhelming relationship subject to confabulation. But the two versions are reconcilable, if I remember correctly. Didn't Maharishi say that when h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
as i recall, when the Maharishi saw Guru Dev at his ashram it was in a slightly different context than this first sighting during a procession, that of joining Guru Dev's organization, and confirming by the headlights shining for a moment on Guru Dev's face, that the Maharishi had indeed found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
> "It happened one way or it happened another". True in (some types of) > logic. But true in Life? That is what is different between these examples. If you actually met Jimi for the first time you would remember it right? Both times it is being remembered as a singular historical event. I wou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > "Guru Dev was found to have the intellect of the first Shankaracharya > > and the Hearth of Buddha" > > > > http://tinyurl.com/9aahpy > > > > So the central st

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Speaks of Guru Dev

2009-01-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > "Guru Dev was found to have the intellect of the first Shankaracharya > and the Hearth of Buddha" > > http://tinyurl.com/9aahpy > So the central story of Maharishi's life is inconsistent. He tell two different versions of the story