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Oh, come on, he liked the incense and the public acclaim? It's
ridiculous, he had avoided contact with people just as much as
possible for many years
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Oh, come on, he liked the incense and the public acclaim? It's
As Maharishi told the story, it took about 20 years to convince him
tobecome Shankaracharya. He didn't want to do it and would keep walking
awayor not showing up when they were going to do the ceremony to make him
theShank. Finally they convinced him to sit still long enough to do
You may be right Bob, but these are theories. Your opinions. Surely
you mustbe aware of the distinction between opinion and established fact.
The thingthat gets everyone's goat here is that the tone of your _expression_
makes itsound like you are asserting your opinions as absolute truth.
On Apr 7, 2005, at 2:01 AM, Bob Brigante wrote:
This meant that Guru Dev only had to expose himself to
the mud of world for a minimum amount of time (it was obviously Guru
Dev's preference to stay away from the ignorant and clamorous world),
just enough time to bring MMY, the educated and
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***
What I am saying is a theory in the sense that
evolution is a theory.
A theory is an explanation that fits the fact
situation (in a way
that creationists' ideas do not). You acknowledge
Guru Dev only
accepting the
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--Why not 365, each deity has a mantra and each day, each hour even,
and again there's the four elements and transcendental aspect of each
mantra, that's at least 5 X 365, and those are just macro macro outer
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Well, I just said because the art and science of Sanskrit mantra is
clearly all spelled out in a few different traditions including
Kalachakra which uses the 365 degrees as Deities, which correspond of
course to parts
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Yes, I can't speak to any of that -- only what has come out of *me*.
If there are correlations with other views and systems, that's
delightful, but I am no scholar, and have no real interest in
scholarly texts and so on,
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FWIW a protean alphabet did emerge (looking something like a cross
between Sanskrit and Tolkien's Elvish) of 72 letters, each
correlated
to a ray and subray of the body, and each character an actual map of
where
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FWIW a protean alphabet did emerge (looking something like a cross
between Sanskrit and Tolkien's Elvish) of 72 letters, each
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Sure, we forget that other beings have their oown speak. Since you
seem to have this cognition,
Or he read it out of a book. As Bob says, choose the theory that is
most consistent with the facts.
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With all due respect, speaking of reading I read in one of Rory's
earlier messages that he said that his knowledge is based on
experience, not scholarly texts.
So it knida comes down to you either believe him or you don't.
Certainly your choice.
Jai Guru Dev
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Sure, we forget that other beings have their oown speak.
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FWIW a protean alphabet did emerge (looking something like a cross
between Sanskrit and Tolkien's Elvish) of 72 letters, each
Yes, exactly. And whats hard to believe in all his tales?
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With all due respect, speaking of reading I read in one of Rory's
earlier messages that he said that his knowledge is based on
experience, not scholarly
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FWIW a protean alphabet did emerge (looking something
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*lol* I didn't read it out of a book, at least in the sense that
you
seem to mean. The letters emerged in gold out of gold, and it took
a
few years to hone my focus enough to make them out clearly. If I
had
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Yes, exactly. And whats hard to believe in all his tales?
Are they any harder to believe than some of yours? Weren't you the one
who spoke of being immersed in a river of Love? I dunno, Akash, sounds
as if we're
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When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the dog at
your foot or you'll be sorry.
Yeah, nothing but a big fat zero (his a-holiness) in the middle of the
whole gaudy spread. Silly means holy; The Silly
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*lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or entheogens, but you
appear to be describing much the same thing, all right :-)
Yes, you appear to be able to hallucinate on your own, quite nicely.
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*lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or entheogens, but you
appear to be describing much the same thing, all right :-)
Yes, you
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When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the
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Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this brilliance
to the erasing of the suffering of all.
What suffering?
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Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this brilliance
to the erasing of the suffering of all.
What suffering?
Ask
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Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate
all this brilliance
to the
The suffering of
others you fool.
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On the other hand ...
quest que vu voir dan la mirror.
Unbelievable beauty. Makes me cry. But then we always had an
inordinately high opinion of ourSelf
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The suffering of others you fool.
What others? Please explain it slowly and carefully to this fool.
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RJ, I don't think Raja Raam Nader's name finishes with
ding dong. That must be one of the newer rajas.
Or maybe you just blessed him with a garland!
-Peter
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What I am saying is a theory in the sense that
evolution is a theory.
A theory is an explanation that fits the fact
situation (in a way
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I love Bob!! Come the revolution I'm pickin' him for
my side. He is a ROCK!
-Peter
Nah, it's Peter that means rock in Latin,
Its just that
PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
Guru Dev, TM The TMO
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Right now I am eating Doritos, and yellow foods are good for
prosperity. And it's after program time so I'm now having
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Who would seriously believe that a planet of people in CC, GC, UC, BC
would accept interference of 'governments' in their lives. People who
have experience of how the leadership of the TMO operates vis-a-vis
the
It may seem so becuase the enemy has infiltrated it.
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Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said
(1979):Only a ridiculous
movement can survive. Otherwise
This conculsion is,. in fact, a no-brainer, too. Who
would seriously believe that a planet of people in CC, GC, UC, BC would
accept interference of 'governments' in their lives. People who have
experience of how the leadership of the TMO operates vis-a-vis the
governments of the world,
I am not sure we're in disagreement (yet) - so I'll try again.. :-)
1. I find it obvius that best government is the one that governs the
least. Just as obvious I find it that the higher states of
consciousness people have, the less they need to be wet nursed.
2. I find it a mistake to view
What kind of society did you live in 200.000 years ago?
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Who would seriously believe that a planet of people in CC, GC, UC, BC
On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:06 AM, rudra_joe wrote:
---Maharishi has never proven that anything he said has any factual basis besides the self hypnosis of some million followers. There are no Movement Sidhas willing to put out some sidhis, including him.
Including all the alleged jivan-muktis of the
I am open to being wrong about this
conclusion I have reached, but if I am I honestly don't see
it.Thanks,Jim---I'm sorry for you,
but to be wrong there would have to be a right, and for there to be a right in
favor of the TMO in any of its programs one of them would have to be a
I don't remember, but I have done some reading, most recently at this
address: http://www.dalitstan.org/books/gowh/gowh-i.html
It is just nauseating.
Irmeli
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What kind of society did you live in 200.000 years ago?
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I don't remember,
If you really want to, you can.
Doing so just might give your personal evolution a nice boost. Much of
what happens in our lives really don't makes sense until seen in a
greater perspective,
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
In English? Can it be posted here?
_A Tradition of Teachers: Shankara and and the Jagagurus today_
by William Cenkner
The spelling it's listed under on Amazon is A
On Apr 6, 2005, at 9:39 AM, akasha_108 wrote:
a recent dissertation ? haha. I had a copy 15-20 or so years ago. It
has gone into a 2nd or maybe third revison. And some, Dana for example
-- I believe, can commment on how parts are not so accurate.
Yeah that's when I got mine.
There are some
Peterklutz:
The TMO is a mirage; it does not exist;
it's the battle field wherethe forces of light find themselves involved in a
struggle with theforces of darkness.
RJ:
The TMO doesn't exist, and won't exist much longer,
and yet won't exist again in the future. A perpetual nonmovement
on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in
character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a factual
manner, i.e. for valid reasons - just as I would expect Him to quailty
ensure the techniques taught
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on 4/6/05 7:19 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you're saying you remember your past lives back then? How clearly
and in
how much detail and how do you know you're not just fantasizing? And
is it
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So you're saying you remember your past lives back
then? How clearly
and in
how much detail and how do
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Clearest way I know of to recognize past (and
future) lives is to
understand they ARE in the Now. :-)
You mean I'm still living in a residential hotel in
Cincinnati during the depression? ;-)
-Peter
As
Clearest way I know of to recognize
past (and future) lives is to understand they ARE in the Now.
:-)-Yeah Boi! In fact, supposedly
by seeing the karmas as they are now one can see their genesis. Certainly
the karma of the Catholic Church is older than any of us and still effects us.
Cincinnati during the depression? ;-) -PeterAs
much as you ever were. ;-)good one dude,
good one. clap clap, me too. I used to think of getting out, but then I noticed
that the peeling paint made good folk art.To
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I don't remember,
If you really want to, you can.
Doing so
Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology?
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I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in
character with
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Cincinnati during the depression? ;-)
-Peter
As much as you ever were. ;-)
good one dude, good one. clap clap, me too. I used to think of
getting out, but then I noticed that the peeling paint made good
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on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in
character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a factual
manner, i.e. for valid reasons - just as I would expect Him to quailty
on 4/6/05 11:23 AM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in
character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a factual
manner, i.e. for valid
So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all are.
What I have found is by meditation and discrimination, the false
becomes seperated from the non-false. After awhile the vibrations of
both become known. Naturally after going through this process one
becomes sensitive to
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So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all
are.
What I have found is by meditation and discrimination, the false
becomes seperated from the non-false. After awhile the vibrations of
both
Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works wonders!
I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another way
there is nothing that can be imagined that doesn't exist. So yes, I
probably do have an over-active imagination, though I am not sure what
that is
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on 4/6/05 11:23 AM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in
character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology?
Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he had gotten such a
favorable impression of L. Ron Hubbard.
Hearing that MMY
on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works wonders!
I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another way
there is nothing that can be imagined that doesn't exist.
So if I imagine that little
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on 4/6/05 11:54 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Technique versus content..
Is it useful to compare a meditation technique and a person using it
with a driver and a car?
Yes, there are different kinds of cars, but what determines who wins
the race
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on 4/6/05 12:14 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology?
Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he
on 4/6/05 12:26 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 12:14 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology?
Not that I
How many bedrooms?
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
He works with
unceasingly from his throne on Brahmaloka
Old news. He's now in a condo.
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Rick Archer wrote: on 4/6/05 7:09 AM,
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:46 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
How many bedrooms?
108 I believe
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I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to
be in
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on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works
wonders!
I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another
way
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on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works
wonders!
I also heard that if
on 4/6/05 1:52 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The logic appeals to me too. But I've now met and read too many
people doing
well on other spiritual paths to believe, as I once did, that TM
corners the
spiritual marketplace.
What does cornering the spiritual marketplace mean?
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on 4/6/05 7:16 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I completely agree. What I was exploring in that larger message
was a
logical link between Guru Dev's desire to enlighten the Earth and
His
selection
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Yes, that is my understanding. I want to be clear that I am not
trying to convince others about this. I heard somewhere that Guru
Dev could've done it Himself but it would've been too easy for Him;
not enough
Thanks for the correlation regarding Krishna in the Gita. I just
looked it up.
Jim
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Yes, that is my understanding. I want to be
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:46 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
How many bedrooms?
108 I believe
Good one. What's your take on the signicance of 108? My current
understanding (open to revision) is 9 Lokas X 12 Aditya/Archetypes =
On Apr 6, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
Good one. What's your take on the signicance of 108? My current
understanding (open to revision) is 9 Lokas X 12 Aditya/Archetypes =
108 Loka-Archetypes. (I am more familiar with the 144 as compassing a
more fractal or holographic approach to the
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4 padas of 27 nakshatras or phases of the moon/mind/heart nadis.
Hey, thanks, RJ! Some stuff on the mechanics of the nakshatras popped
up some time back; didn't think to look at a quad-unfoldment of them.
(May tie in
On Apr 6, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
I was hoping for a breakdown of the
mechanics behind them, but this is most helpful.
You would need to receive transmission of the kalachakra-tantra and
then get a lung (reading transmission) to read the texts. Otherwise
read the
I LIKE THAT
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Rory Goff
wrote: I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are related to the lunar and solar channels
which when joined transform karmic prana into jnanic
(transcendental)
prana. These channels are the ascending and descending star-signs
of
the year. The inner zodiac.
:
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I completely agree. What I was exploring in that larger message
was a
logical link between Guru Dev's desire to enlighten the Earth and
His
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I completely agree. What I was exploring in that larger
message
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on 4/6/05 1:52 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The logic appeals to me too. But I've now met and read too many
people doing
well on other spiritual paths to believe, as I once did, that TM
corners
Jai Guru Dev, Bob.
Thanks, Jim
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Yes, sure -- for some reason, I
never thought of linking the two concepts together like that. (I instead
looked into mantras for 144 subcategories of the Solar wheel, each covering
2.5 days, and went on in that direction, working out various layers of
macro-micro correlation from the
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Bob Brigante wrote:
There was no reason for Guru Dev to abandon his life of bliss in the
forest unless it was his intention to give householders of the world
the opportunity to enjoy that bliss, too.
Bob, you
on 4/6/05 7:21 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a lesson in the SCI course where M says TM is the only
way, but he
goes on to say that anything which transcends it's own activity is
TM.
Are you sure he used the word only? I remember him saying TM is
the way
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'The initiation took place in front of a picture of Guru Dev and I
was told that I should consider neither my initiator nor Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi as my spiritual teacher but the Guru Dev himself.' -
Dinesh Khare
on 4/5/05 4:16 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The real reason why little difference (to date) is found between the
behavior of meditators and non-meditators is that the early adopters
of TM have been disproportionately crackpot, which is just the nature
of early adopters of
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Gradually I am coming to
realise that he now seems to speak an entirely different language, a
language I cannot respect, a voice against democracy.
snip
FWIW.. you're not the only one to first have raised on
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on 4/5/05 4:16 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The real reason why little difference (to date) is found between the
behavior of meditators and non-meditators is that the early adopters
of TM have
Bob, you can on mentioning TM as what is sound as the best technique
on earth or very close to it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
surely you know that are other technique that preceded TM and MMY
that also use meditation at their basis.
Would you humour me and clear why do you see TM technique as the
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Bobananda is displeased with your lack of obeisance...stand under a
tree during the next thunderstorm...
Dude, you are beginning to display a downright sense of humor. I
mean, I remember when it seemed
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Would you count yourself among the early adopters, Bob, or are you
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an exception to your own generality?
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Bobananda is displeased with your lack of obeisance...stand under
a
tree during the next thunderstorm...
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Would you count yourself among the early adopters, Bob, or are you
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Hi,
With all due respect, something about your statement is confusing to
me. If in fact Guru Dev's intent is to bring about the Sat Yuga, Age
of Enlightenment, etc. (which I believe that it is, because nuclear
annihilation remains the only other option), I don't understand why He
would
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