[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A snake is real until its not -- only a rope. If a "they" is an > operant construct for the constructee, then the opperant construct can > be acknowledged, like the easter bunny is for kids. Else no chocolate > eggs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Two ignoramuses discussing nothing of substance on some virtual server > somehwere in yahooloka. BINGO! :-) :-) :-) Or is it ignoramI ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://gr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If there is no ego (or operant construct) (the OC), there is nothing > to do the agreeing or to be thankful for. An interesting concept. I wonder if it's true? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/18/05 1:57 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> What makes you think it's the same people? > > Well it would be odd if the so called awakened "long-time TM > practitioners in FF" were in a special subset of rus who never bought > into any TMO stories (flying, cc in five years, s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/18/05 12:48 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/18/05 12:48 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? >>> What TM mantra includes "OM"? >> >> Apparently it can, if you believe the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Are we really pretending to believe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/18/05 12:36 PM, sadhak108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 4/18/05 12:11 PM, sadhak108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Replies interspersed below: > >>> >>> How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes Rory, you are a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are we really pretending to believe in a drama of "they" and "them" > > outside of Self? If so, why? > > A snake is real until

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud thes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud these people, tell them what great shining souls they are (if you can avoid snickering), that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Ah yes Rory, you are a great shining soul and you have obviously > > obtained such great attainments, you are indeed ble

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are we really pretending to believe in a drama of "they" and "them" > outside of Self? If so, why? A snake is real until its not -- only a rope. If a "they" is an operant construct for the constructee, then the opp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I hear > > Peter has the ghee :-) > > Good. He needs copious amounts of it. :) Gotta keep that fire *ROARING* :-) To subscribe,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah yes Rory, you are a great shining soul and you have obviously > obtained such great attainments, you are indeed blessed ... *lol* Beauty (etc.) is *entirely* in the eye of the beholder To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I hear > Peter has the ghee :-) Good. He needs copious amounts of it. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud these people, tell them what great shining souls they are (if you can avoid snickering), th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud these people, tell them what > great shining souls they are (if you can avoid snickering), that they > have obtained such great attainments, that they indeed are the blessed >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those claiming to be awake are suspect. > What great exponent of knowledge has ever made this claim? Those claiming to be asleep are even more suspect, for they are denying the self-evident Truth -- a patent absurd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? > > What TM mantra includes "OM"? > > Apparently it can, if you believe the many long-time TM practitioners in FF who say they have awakened. "l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread sadhak108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/18/05 12:11 PM, sadhak108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replies interspersed below: > > > > How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? > > What TM mantra includes "OM"? > > Apparently it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With what authority to do say this? > > How many incarnations will it take? > > How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? > What TM mantra includes "OM"? How I love my monkey-mind! It del

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Vaj
On Apr 18, 2005, at 1:11 PM, sadhak108 wrote: > With what authority to do say this? Personal experience, friends, scriptural. > > How many incarnations will it take? < 1 usually. If you fast you can do it in a long weekend. Otherwise two weeks of rounding should do it. Depends how many suppo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/18/05 12:11 PM, sadhak108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > potentiality. Eventually you "get" that "inside-is-outside". > > With what authority to do say this? > > How many incarnations will it take? > > How ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recharging mantras VAJ's Statement

2005-04-18 Thread sadhak108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: potentiality. Eventually you "get" that "inside-is-outside". With what authority to do say this? How many incarnations will it take? How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? What TM mantra inclu