[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Turq and other guru enthusiasts... Bronte and other idiots, take a look at yourselves. You're PROJECTING your own shit, babe. As almost anyone here could tell you, I am no "guru enthusiast." Get your own act togeth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bronte, you are certainly not an idiot, and Turq's calling > you one only reveals that his emotions trumped his intellect > in this case, causing him to violate our agreement not to > resort to personal insults.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-16 Thread new . morning
Similar thoughts occur to me on this Judy. I have had some nice go arounds with Jim, Rory and others on this. (And I am using your post as a springboard for some thoughts that have occurred to me, and I am not directly addressing each of your points.) If I have understood his position, Jim, rathe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I have understood his position, Jim, rather emphatically as I > recall, stated that, paraphrasing, he did not want to help the > suffering in Iraq, even thought he says he has the ability to > quickly fulfill all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-16 Thread new . morning
Thank you for the quote. First, let me preface this by saying that I acknowledge that what I inferred Jim was saying may not be what he intended. From the larger context of his posts on this topic, beyond the quote, and even from the quote itself, I am not yet sure that what I inferred was off

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee

2007-09-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Restatement of Focus: There appears to be a view subscribed to by > some, that might be summarized as "Everything is Perfect as it is". > While there are many different implications and possible subview > following form

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee of RM ...")

2007-09-14 Thread qntmpkt
--- The neutered people are the Neo-Advaitins, who are trapped in a form of delusion (even if Enlightened); delusions are possible on many levels; chief among them is the notion that there's no individual "there". There IS, but simply lacking in misidentification of the "I". What remains is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee of RM ...")

2007-09-16 Thread authfriend
Just a note on the assertion that "everything is perfect just as it is," which seems to engender some misunderstanding (including in the interview with Ramesh Balsekar that qntmpkt posted): --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the conditions o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee of RM ...")

2007-09-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote: > Virtually every teaching I've ever encountered about > enlightenment has said the same thing (usually at > much greater length): experiencing (not just believing) > that everything is perfect just as it is does *not* > mean not wanting to change anything. > Don't know exactly where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee of RM ...")

2007-09-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point is, that if everything is perfect, just as it > is, then there would be no need for yoga, the goal of > which is perfection. Yeah, the above is exactly the misunderstanding I was attempting to po

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anything (Was "From a realized devotee of RM ...")

2007-09-14 Thread Peter
Most "Neo-Advaitins" are so full of mood making shit it ain't funny. They take a description of the experiential reality of Realization and then use it as a waking state concept to "become" enlightened. What idiots. Most don't meditate or do any sort of practice, smoke dope and drink and then try t