--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure what you're saying John. He clearly states he's a
> > > sannyasi.
> > 
> > A sannyasi is one who has devoted his life to
> > spirituality (as opposed to career and family).
> > It doesn't automatically mean celibate.
> 
> And which order(s) of sanyassi are your referring to?

Not all sanyasis, of course, belong to an order.
I'm not aware that MMY took sanyas vows in any
order.  Do you know to the contrary?

For that matter, do *you* know what sanyasi means?
It has several different connotations.  Which one
was MMY using?




 And you have
> spoken to members of these orders? Do you speak hindi? Or did you 
have
> to use a translator when you spoke to these sanyassis (as I inferred
> you must have to make such bold statements with a straight face.) 
> 
> I never have talked to or even heard of sexually active sanyassi
> orders. I would love to hear about your adventures in india finding
> the non-celibate sanyassis. And I know some reseachers, pre-eminent 
in
> documenting sanyassis, who would be fascinated by your findings. In
> his extensive interviewing if sanyassis', in hindi, I don't think he
> has come across sexually active sanyassis. Some sadhus do tie rocks 
to
> their phallic endowments and "really" let it hang -- to over 3 feet
> and more, but thats a tapas, not sex. And there are those
> cross-dressing devotees to Ma. But that is all about devotion and
> non-identity, rather than some sexual proclivity.








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